climate system

Well, they're, they're very different things.

For example, um, El Niño and La Niña, that, the, the oscillation that w- we're referring to, that's a naturally occurring part of our climate system for forever.

Um, you know, for- forever, and we've been tracking these events, um, with the best data back to 1950 and, and with other, you know, paleo-type data sets and, and other reconstructions, we're able to go back into the 1800s.

So this is nothing new.