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Cleanthes

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Nov 4, 2026

Leon MireNARRATOR
307:00
Therefore, again, the soul must be corporeal.
Leon MireNARRATOR
307:03
In the belief of Cleanthes, the souls of all creatures remained to the next period of cyclic conflagration.
Leon MireNARRATOR
307:10
Chrysippus believed that only the souls of the wise and good remained.
Leon MireNARRATOR
307:15
Coming finally to the ethics of the Stoic philosophy, we find for the chief end of life this definition, a life consistent with itself, or as it was otherwise expressed, a life consistent with nature.
Ryan HolidayHOST
4:31
We're not asking someone who looks like they're struggling or in pain what they need.
Ryan HolidayHOST
4:37
There's a story about Cleanthes.
Ryan HolidayHOST
4:38
He's walking through Rome and he sees this man sort of beating himself up.
Ryan HolidayHOST
4:42
And he just stops him and he says, you're not talking to a bad person.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
13:34
For what they did was to substitute for the Stoic logic a logic of their own, dealing with the notions derived from sense, much in the same way as Bacon substituted his novum organum for the organon of Aristotle.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
13:48
Cleanthes, we are told, recognized six parts of philosophy, namely dialectic, rhetoric, ethic, politic, physic, and theology, but these are obviously the result of subdivision of the primary ones.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
14:02
Of the three departments, we may say that logic deals with the form and expression of knowledge, physic with the matter of knowledge, and ethic with the use of knowledge.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
14:13
The division may also be justified in this way.

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Bill BoerstNARRATOR
24:21
Over against these there were two comprehensive vices, barbarism and solecism, the one being an offense against accidents, the other against syntax.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
24:32
one does not associate the idea of poetry much with the austere sect of the Stoics.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
24:37
Still, it should be remembered that the finest devotional utterance of paganism is Cleanthes' Hymn to Zeus, and that Eratus among the Greeks, and among the Romans, Manilius, Seneca, Perseus, and Juvenal, may be set down to the credit of the school.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
24:54
Amphiboly was defined as diction which signifies two or more things in the strict prose sense of the terms and in the same language.
Creighton McElveenHOST
71:50
And it's interesting that Paul, uh, that those two schools are the ones that sort of get the specific mention.
Creighton McElveenHOST
72:00
But Cleanthes, Hymn to Zeus, also has this line almost verbatim.
Creighton McElveenHOST
72:06
That's very interesting.
Creighton McElveenHOST
72:08
And that, you know, Cleanthes was a prominent Stoic of the time, which is interesting.
Wesley WalkerHOST
72:18
So then in many ways, Paul really is a Hermes-like figure because he's delivering the message of the God, though certainly in a different way.
Wesley WalkerHOST
72:30
The second quote, for we too are his offspring, is the Greek poet Aretas, who lived, I think, from like 315 to 240 AD.
John PetersonNARRATOR
50:22
I'll follow, doubting not, or if with will, recreant I falter, I shall follow still.
John PetersonNARRATOR
50:29
Cleanthes.
John PetersonNARRATOR
50:32
Who rightly with necessity complies, in things divine we count him skilled and wise.
John PetersonNARRATOR
50:38
Euripides, fragment 965.
speaker_0HOST
27:03
There's an ancient story that shows how far that discipline could go.
speaker_0HOST
27:07
Diogenes Laertius tells us that Cleanthes, who would later succeed Zeno as head of the Stoic school, arrived in Athens as a former boxer with next to no money.
speaker_0HOST
27:18
So that he could study philosophy by day, he spent his nights drawing water from the wells to irrigate the market gardens.
speaker_0HOST
27:25
The story goes that he was hauled before a court to explain how he made a living, because he looked healthy and strong, with no known occupation, and that the gardener he worked for came forward to vouch for his nights of toil.
speaker_0HOST
27:39
The judges were so impressed they wanted to give him money, and Zeno wouldn't let him accept it.
speaker_0HOST
27:45
Cleanthes didn't complain about his tired body.
speaker_0HOST
27:48
He used it to win himself hours of study.
speaker_0HOST
27:52
Many mornings begin with the body being dragged along, from the mattress to the hot shower, from the shower to the car, from the car to the desk chair.
Leon MireNARRATOR
64:31
All men indeed received from nature the starting-points for virtue, but until perfection had been attained they rested under the condemnation of vice.
Leon MireNARRATOR
64:40
It was, to employ an illustration of the poet-philosopher Cleanthes, as though nature had begun an iambic line and left men to finish it.
Leon MireNARRATOR
64:50
Until that was done, they were to wear the fool's cap.
Leon MireNARRATOR
64:53
The peripatetics, on the other hand, recognized an intermediate state between virtue and vice, to which they gave the name of progress and proficience.

48 MINS LATER

Leon MireNARRATOR
113:23
Death of Aristotle, 322.
Leon MireNARRATOR
113:26
Death of Xenocrates, 315.
Leon MireNARRATOR
113:26
Cleanthes succeeded Zeno, 275.
Leon MireNARRATOR
113:30
Chrysippus died, 207.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
14:04
For what they did was to substitute for the Stoic logic a logic of their own, dealing with the notions derived from sense, much in the same way as Bacon substituted his novum organum for the organon of Aristotle.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
14:18
Cleanthes, we are told, recognized six parts of philosophy, namely dialectic, rhetoric, ethic, politic, physic, and theology, but these are obviously the result of subdivision of the primary ones.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
14:33
Of the three departments, we may say that logic deals with the form and expression of knowledge, physic with the matter of knowledge, and ethic with the use of knowledge.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
14:43
The division may also be justified in this way.

11 MINS LATER

Bill BoerstNARRATOR
25:51
Over against these there were two comprehensive vices, barbarism and solecism, the one being an offense against accidents, the other against syntax.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
26:02
one does not associate the idea of poetry much with the austere sect of the Stoics.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
26:07
Still, it should be remembered that the finest devotional utterance of paganism is Cleanthes' Hymn to Zeus, and that Eratus among the Greeks, and among the Romans, Manilius, Seneca, Perseus, and Juvenal, may be set down to the credit of the school.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
26:24
Amphiboly was defined as diction which signifies two or more things in the strict prose sense of the terms and in the same language.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
9:33
the question of happiness is no longer as with aristotle and still more with plato one for the state but for the individual in both schools the speculative interest was feeble from the first and tended to become feebler as time went on both were new departures from pre-existent schools stoicism was bred out of cynicism as epicureanism out of cyrenaicism both were content to fall back for their physics upon the pre-socratic schools the one adopting the firm philosophy of heraclitus the other the atomic theory of democritus both were in strong reaction against the abstractions of plato and aristotle and would tolerate nothing but concrete reality the stoics were quite as materialistic in their own way as the epicureans with regard indeed to the nature of the highest god we may with seneca represent the difference between the two schools as a question of the senses against the intellect but we shall see presently that the stoics regarded the intellect itself as being a kind of body the greeks were all agreed that there was an end or aim of life and that it was to be called happiness but at that point their agreement ended as to the nature of happiness there was the utmost variety of opinion democritus had made it consist in mental serenity anaxagoras in speculation socrates in wisdom aristotle in the practice of virtue with some amount of favor from fortune aristippus simply in pleasure these were opinions of the philosophers but besides these there were the opinions of ordinary men as shown by their lives rather than by their language zeno's contribution to thought on the subject does not at first sight appear illuminating he said that the end was to live consistently the implication doubtless being that no life but the passionless life of reason could ultimately be consistent with itself.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
11:38
Cleanthes, his immediate successor in the school, is credited with having added the words with nature, thus completing the well-known Stoic formula that the end is to live consistently with nature.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
11:54
it was assumed by the greeks that the ways of nature were the ways of pleasantness and that all her paths were peace this may seem to us a startling assumption but that is because we do not mean by nature the same thing as they did we connect the term with the origin of a thing they connected it rather with the end by the natural state we mean a state of savagery they meant the highest civilization we mean by a thing's nature what it is or has been they meant what it ought to become under the most favourable conditions not the sour crab but the mellow glory of the hesperides worthy to be guarded by a sleepless dragon was to the greeks the natural apple hence we find aristotle maintaining that the state is a natural product because it is evolved out of social relations which exist by nature nature indeed was a highly ambiguous term to the greeks no less than to ourselves but in the sense with which we are now concerned the nature of anything was defined by the peripatetics as the end of its becoming another definition of theirs puts the matter still more clearly what each thing is when its growth has been completed that we declare to be the nature of each thing following out this conception the stoics identified a life in accordance with nature with a life in accordance with the highest perfection to which man could attain now as man was essentially a rational animal his work as man lay in living the rational life and the perfection of reason was virtue hence the ways of nature were no other than the ways of virtue and so it came about that the stoic formula might be expressed in a number of different ways which yet all amounted to the same thing the end was to live the virtuous life or to live consistently or to live in accordance with nature or to live rationally division of philosophy philosophy was defined by the stoics as the knowledge of things divine and human it was divided into three departments logic ethic and physic this division indeed was in existence before their time but they have got the credit of it as of some other things which they did not originate neither was it confined to them but was part of the common stock of thought even the epicureans who are said to have rejected logic can hardly be counted as dissentients from this threefold division for what they did was to substitute for the stoic logic a logic of their own dealing with the notions derived from sense much in the same way as bacon substituted his novum organum for the organum of aristotle cleanthes we are told recognized six parts of philosophy namely dialectic rhetoric ethic politic physic and theology But these are obviously the result of subdivision of the primary ones.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
15:05
Of the three departments we may say that logic deals with the form and expression of knowledge, physic with the matter of knowledge, and ethic with the use of knowledge.

53 MINS LATER

Bill BoerstNARRATOR
68:21
According to the high Stoic doctrine, there was no mean between virtue and vice.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
68:26
All men indeed received from nature the starting points for virtue, but until perfection had been attained they rested under the condemnation of vice.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
68:36
It was, to employ an illustration of the poet-philosopher Cleanthes, as though nature had begun an iambic line and left men to finish it.
Bill BoerstNARRATOR
68:45
until that was done they were to wear the fool's cap the peripatetics on the other hand recognized an intermediate state between virtue and vice to which they gave the name of progress and proficience yet so entirely had the stoics for practical purposes to accept this lower level that the word proficience has come to be spoken of as though it were of stoic origin seneca is fond of contrasting the sage with the proficient the sage is like a man in the enjoyment of perfect health but the proficient is like a man recovering from a severe illness with whom an abatement of the paroxysm is equivalent to health and who is always in danger of a relapse It is the business of philosophy to provide for the needs of these weaker brethren.
John SellarsGUEST
7:11
So Zeno comes first.
John SellarsGUEST
7:12
He's followed by his pupil, Cleanthes, who is then followed by Chrysippus.
John SellarsGUEST
7:21
And of these early Greek Stoics, the standard view is that Chrysippus is really the important one.
John SellarsGUEST
7:27
He's the intellectual heavyweight.

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