And it sounds like he brought you on that journey.

Exactly, and it, it, you know, sometimes it's destiny.

You know, you're in the right place at the right time and you meet the right person.

So yeah, so then I worked with him one and a half, two years.

And funny enough, then I was also freelancing, and this opportunity with Cunard came up.

And I was like, "Ah, I should go out to sea for a year.

You know, it's a nice consulting gig.

Okay.