They know a lot about marriage, as at the time of this recording, they've been married for almost 40 years so i have dr clarence schuler with me today dr schuler what's the word on marriage what would you like to tell people

Well, Karen, thanks so much for this introduction.

I would like to tell them that our nonprofit, Building Lasting Relationships, we actually get wounded people in God's word into wounded people, primarily by memorizing scripture.

Then we heal them, equip them, and empower them to become reproductive disciples who do the same for others.

And one of those venues that we do is use marriage.

And we've done marriage ministry all around the globe.

And we refer people to our resource, which is Keeping Your Wife Your Best Friend, which is written for husbands, but also their wives.

And I would suggest that doing this upfront, making the investment upfront is really going to be more valuable for you and those you serve than paying it on the back end

As we've been talking about the younger generation and also the older generation, each having talent and skill, I'm just sitting here remembering back about my own journey and thinking that if you had said to me some years ago that I would actually have a successful podcast,

I would have left

So Dr. Shuler, tell us more about the power of cross-cultural friendships.

Well, Dr. Karen, I love to do that.

And, you know, maybe the most important relationship or one of the most important relationships we can build across cultural friendships.

And the reason, because we have so much racial tension and we found that if people from different cultures become friends, it actually lowers the racial tension in America.

Dr. Gary Chapman, the author of The Five Love Languages, the New York Times best-selling author, and I have written this book, this resource called Life-Changing Cross-Cultural Friendships, how you can help heal racial divides one relationship at a time.

And we believe if people would get that book and read it with a friend and talk about it or make a cross-cultural friend and read through the book together, it can change lives forever and change the racial tension in America and make it a better one.

Dr. Shuler, tell us a little bit about what you learned in your experience, and what resources you have available for us.

Well, mental health is a really big thing in America today, like you said, and African American men are the number one depressed group in America.

And I think men in general would come into that.

And when I went through my depression, it was really a thing about idolatry.

I hate to say that, but I was trying to validate myself by how much money I made or my success.

And I was fortunate enough to have a Christian counselor, a Dr. Monique Gadson, who helped me work through that, so now I'm managing my depression more effectively.

And so one of the resources that we have is our book, Finding Hope in a Dark Place: Facing Loneliness, Depression, and Anxiety with the Power of Grace.

Dr. Shuler, what's the word on marriage? What would you like to tell people?

Well, Karen, thanks so much for this introduction.

I would like to tell them that our nonprofit, Building Lasting Relationships, we actually get wounded people and God's word into wounded people, primarily by memorizing scripture.

Then we heal them, equip them, and empower them to become reproductive disciples who do the same for others.

And one of those venues that we do is use marriage, and we've done marriage ministry all around the globe.

And we refer people to our, our resource, which is Keeping Your Wife Your Best Friend, which is written for husbands, but also their wives, so they can go through the book together.

There are questions in the back, so whether they have a tune-up or their marriage is in crisis, we really feel this resource can change their life forever, and they can actually use it to help change other people's lives.