Clampdown

And a couple days later, his manager called up and said, "What are you doing in April and May?" And so taking the energy from that room and putting it in 20 arenas was, I mean, I think just a genius stroke on his part, and it was just an, it was an honor to be a part of it, and to feel that the, the uncompromising and uncompromised nature of those shows at what will hopefully be the turning of the tide.

I'm curious how much you had to do with the choice of "Clampdown" and, and also in helping the E Street Band kind of nail that song, which is pretty different from what they're doing.

[laughs] Well, the first time we played "Clampdown" was in 2014, and it was my, it was my suggestion, uh, then, but it was Bruce's idea to bring that, The Clash's greatest anti-fascist song back, uh, and make it a centerpiece of the set.

I am curious whether you see your relationship with Bruce as any kind of helpful metaphor for sort of the closer to center left and the further left trying to find common ground and working together.

100%.

And the shows that you and Bruce and the band did earlier this year were really something else.

She wondered about conversations with Bruce about doing Clampdown, what those kind of looked like, and were there any other Clash songs considered?

Well, we first played Clampdown, I think, in 2014.

And the one thing that Bruce has been very open-minded and open-hearted about is is I'm not shy about making suggestions.

And Clash is my favorite band of all time.