Claes Oldenburg

And if you came, and all you had to do was teach, and you could get a free book published or, like, a series of lithographs printed, you know? So all these great artists from all over the world.

Claes Oldenburg even came, I think.

And the great artists from Europe, everywhere, came there, and a lot of them were more conceptual artists from that moment.

Arte povera was, like, this movement in Italy that was, like, a certain movement of...