Civilian casualty

in urban environments, the U.S. military does not behave like the Israeli Defense Force.

And for us to continue to fund the Israeli Defense Force while they commit genocide, while they kill and target civilians, yes, doing counterterrorism operations in an urban environment, there will be some There will be some civilian casualties.

This casual tossing around of genocide is absolutely disgusting.

I had this whole back and forth with that stupid guest, Owen, whatever his name was, last time I was on the show.

And we can get into more if you want, but my argument in a nutshell is that I think that conversation that Truman had, where there's a lot of story about why that conversation even came up and what Truman's role in it was imagined to be, I think Truman got confused by the conversation.

And I think that he believed, that what he had decided to do was to not destroy a city with the first atomic bomb, but to instead destroy a as he put it, a purely military target, a military base with very few, if any, civilian casualties, and that he believed he had made this as a very sort of bold moral statement about the United States in the nuclear age and that he was wrong plainly because Hiroshima was a city of 90% civilians.

And so that's my essential argument in a nutshell.

And obviously, it would take a long time for me to fully substantiate it for anybody who's listening.

The morning after Nagasaki, when he's told there will be another bomb ready in a week and he says no more bombs without my explicit approval.

He tells his cabinet that he did this because he couldn't stand the thought of killing all those kids.

I mean, it's about the civilian casualties, about how horrible it was.

And then he essentially doesn't relinquish that power back for pretty much his entire presidency.

He says of the Israeli conduct during wars, and he went over to Israel, he investigated in 2014, he was part of Colonel Richard Kemp and others, and the quote after he did this report, he did interviews, he was shown intelligence, he looked at everything, he said...

They put us to shame when it comes to minimisation of civilian casualties.

You watch the two hours of footage from October 7 raw, like I did, and then you tell me about how the IDF conducts itself.

It is not even comparable.

And what can you tell us about the civilians who are also killed in these strikes?

There have been reports of civilian casualties in a number of these strikes.

I'll note the one on Tuesday that killed the terrorist who invaded the Eris Crossing.

That strike killed a 15-year-old boy.

But in any of these strikes, there's always a potential for civilians to be harmed.

the army calculates it.

For example, with the Rafah Brigade commander, the strike that was carried out was after at least two previously were canceled because of fears of too many civilian casualties.

The Hamas commander was next to too many civilians and only once he was out in a relatively open area in his vehicle, then the military carried out the strike and with less of a risk to surrounding civilians.

They're not pretending there's anything remotely like evidence.

Somebody said it's something bad that israel is uh associated with and that's all the information they need so yesterday in uh uh israeli news website mahariv there was a story uh which daniel tells me has now been deleted since uh but again that that says a lot uh the story was by somebody who claimed anonymously that he was a soldier uh one of the 24 soldiers who appeared in this movie And he said that basically the filmmakers asked him to, you know, report larger numbers of civilian casualties that were approved as collateral damage.

And would pay him accordingly.

So the quote on the title was part of what was in the article.

They don't have maybe the ability to carry out another October 7th attack, certainly not with the same ease that they did then.

But they are still in power.

And the reason they are still in power is because Israel avoids civilian casualties.

Also, the reason nearly a thousand Israeli soldiers died since October 7th in Gaza is because Israel... wants to avoid civilian casualties, even at the price of Israeli deaths, certainly the deaths of Israeli soldiers.

And Hegseth ignored the withdrawal deadline that Congress set in that order He said Hegseth has, quote, "Treated mandatory statutory deadlines as discretionary." The other two articles of impeachment focus on American strikes in Iran and Venezuela.

Massie says Hegseth ignored laws that are meant to minimize civilian casualties.

Well, that's absolutely true.

Now, he starts by talking about the elementary school in Iran.

The rhetorical progression has become almost formulaic.

The argument begins with civilian casualties, then becomes war crimes, then genocide, then apartheid, then settler colonialism, then Zionism itself.

Eventually, the conclusion arrives where many activists wanted to begin.

There should be no Jewish state.

I don't really know what they say, nor do I care what their opinion is, because it's probably wrong.

But I do think that people should have a more realistic approach on what's really happening on the ground, especially when it comes to civilian casualties.

They purposely hide in these apartment buildings.

They purposely use the civilian population to exploit their own people so they can get their web of influence out there.

So it's a really sick political strategy.

I mean, we haven't seen it I mean, even the Japanese, the Nazis, nobody, while they accepted civilian casualties, that wasn't their strategy, was to get their own population killed in order to achieve this political goal in the afterlife.

So that's why I say in their words, because it's their public statements that anybody can reference, that they have this human sacrifice strategy.

And of course, their actions, right, there's 600 miles of tunnels in Gaza as one example.

The lies had taken hold.

Delivered more humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip than any army probably ever gave to an enemy population during wartime in history.

Food, clean water, electricity, medical aids for decades since Israel gave Gaza back to them in 2005. warns civilians with flyers, phone calls, and other mitigation techniques to make sure that the civilian casualties are as low as possible, moves populations of entire cities out of the way, one of the lowest combat to civilian death ratios in the history of modern warfare.

All these, the city they built underneath the ground, the tunnels, the hospitals, the tunnels under hospitals, under schools, under mosques.