Cisco Live!

And KubeCon, I, I went because, um, I knew that at the time I was working with, uh, Heptio on Kubernetes, uh, transformation, and I wanted to go to KubeCon because I knew that Ian Coldwater was gonna be talking there, and they'd been helping us and our organization with a bunch of, you know, container security and stuff like this.

So I, uh, I know a bunch of people who went to Cisco Live because they're going for the talks.

Mm.

So yeah, I, I, I...

Niche event? Maybe not.

'Cause at the end of the day, like, if you, like, if you look at Swenops and things like this, I'm not necessarily picking them for the talks, I'm picking them for the, for the, the community.

So I, I haven't been to Cisco Live for, for a long time, but when I went, there were...

It's far larger, right? It's, um, so they, they had, or perhaps also because of that, the opportunity to, to have specific deep dives, right, um, into the nitty gritty details of how a TCAM works or whatever it might be, or memory management on your Cisco 9000.

I have.

Yeah, I took it, um, last year actually in, at Cisco Live Melbourne.

Yeah.

And, uh, it, it, it's a fun exam.

[laughs]

One, one thing I like to do as much as possible for the core exams is don't go too deep in the prep before taking it.

Go, go take it a first time, especially if you happen to go to Cisco Live and you get a free exam at Cisco Live.

Go take the exam.

And one thing led to another, but the story is pretty cool.

I know you did an episode recently about Cisco Live.

So 1998, U.S. East

Networkers, the world of solution or was, was like a 20 by 30 room, tiny.

And they also announced CCNA and CCNP at that show.

Wow.

Which, Networkers, for those that don't know, Networkers was the old version of Cisco Live.

Or it's the original Cisco Live.