Cindy Gallop

But this 39 year old guy was a blast, you know, and we're still in touch and we had a great time.

And there's a woman that I interviewed is very well known for going out with younger men called Cindy Gallop.

And she's kind of made it her thing.

She talks a lot about it.

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hope so.

With these younger people, one of the aspects of these relationships with much younger people that Cindy Gallop brought up when I interviewed her was the fact that she didn't expect any of them to last for decades because she recognized that at some point, some of these men in their 30s especially might want to go on to have children and families.

And that she recognized that she might continue to be friends with them, but at some point, the intimate aspect of their relationship might end simply because they were at very different life stages.

You can't search for like anything violent, can't search for anything demeaning.

Is this website set up by Cindy Gallop called makelovenotporn.tv. Oh

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Cindy Gallop.

I mean, that was a big, that was a big breath.

Welcome to Kirsten's bucket list episode of Good Thinking, where we invite Cindy Gallop on to talk, and Kirsten swoons and-

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... cheers and yeah.

And, and she's just such an icon and, and in, in every industry there's some amazing takeaways because she is such an inspiring human.

She h- lives her truth through and through and I think there's personal lessons to take away.

And I'm not a name dropper, but I'm going to drop a name.

Some years ago, I had a conversation with Cindy Gallop about this because Cindy and I I won't say we're friends, but we're, you know, modern friends.

We're acquaintances.

And he and I were both mentioned in an article in Ad Age 30. the one without the D.

I've seen it happen from a distance.

I've always found your writing exceptional.

And... you know, to kind of hear that you have your own business kind of gives me a little bit of hope the same way when I hear Cindy Gallop kind of talk about, you know, all the things she's doing.

I really hope that there is a place outside of that cycle is kind of what I'm hoping with that renaissance a little bit.

And once you meet her, you will understand exactly why.

Cindy Gallop, my guest today, graduated from Oxford.

She launched the New York office of global ad agency Bartle Bogle Hegarty in '98, and was named Advertising Woman of the Year in 2003.

Business Insider named her one of the 15 most important marketing strategy thinkers today, alongside Malcolm Gladwell and Seth Godin.

How might you suggest that someone work through that guilt so they can stop self-sabotaging and start to actually think about earning what they're worth?

I channel Cindy Gallop, and I don't know if listeners know her, but she is an incredible woman.

Her big mantra is she wants every woman to think of a really ridiculous number going into a raise negotiation or a pay raise negotiation.

Think of a number that you can say out loud without laughing and just say the number.

I've got the amount that I never thought I would get.

You know, sometimes it's really helpful to channel someone else and kind of brave it out that way.

So I channel Cindy Gallop in that situation.

Angela, Maya, thank you so much for joining us on Feminist Money.

I'm Meghan French Dunbar, and welcome to Unbehaved.

You just heard from the one and only Cindy Gallop, and if you don't know her yet, brace yourself.

Her title on LinkedIn legit says, "I like to blow shit up." [laughs] She's pretty much the poster child for unbehaved and who I wanna be when I grow up.

But before I go any further, I do wanna note that today's conversation touches on sexual assault.