So, Chuck, can you before we get into the mechanics, can you elaborate on that point a little bit, how important it is? to become an expert in this space or surround yourself with experts through mentorships or coaches to guide you through operating this

way.

And here's the point where a lot of people fall short or fall by the wayside because it takes work.

It takes effort.

It doesn't just happen automatically.

It's like you put in the grind, right? I go to these real estate meetups.

I go to bunches.

one other person, two or