It says, So do you want to expand on that a little bit? Was Philip the right man for the job? We talked a little bit last time about who he was and why he was selected, but let's focus on him actually reaching the shores of Sydney.

Yeah, OK.

Well, let me just in a sentence or two, if I can do that, recap.

Philip was a military man.

He served in the British Navy and then there was a bit of a lapse in who Britain was fighting.

So he went off to fight with the Portuguese against the Spanish and then got a job working with Lord Sidney as a strategist.

for the war of the British against the Spanish.

Dr. Reynolds.

How did that movement, that religious movement that took place in Britain, impact and affect the way that the British treated the Aboriginal people and how they viewed the Aboriginal people?

Well, we jumped ahead.

We missed on Arthur Phillip getting on the boat there.

Yeah, the first thing is when the Aborigines, when it's declared on February the 7th, when David Collins, the new Attorney General, reads out the latest patent and Arthur Phillips stands up and says, right, I'm here.

And he says, you people have been given a second chance at life.

You've been sentenced to seven and 14 years.

You don't worry about that.

we'll go about 10 minutes left oh

they view prisoners? And how

did they view their own society? Yeah, you've got two streams of things happening, right? So let's just do one and then the other.

Can we do that? Yep.

Okay.

I've got to do it.

Keep sense.

The first thing is that people run to this idea that the historians, that the prisons were overcrowded.

nate uh well i guess firstly just to paint the picture a little bit more for people that don't understand the full concept so the actual first fleet that came here it arrived as i said before it left uh it left england in uh may of 1787 and arrived in australian botany bay in uh the 18th of january 1788 and that's where they assessed botany bay and they said well this is not adequate and then they moved up to port jackson and settled there and that's and they arrived there on the 26th of january 19 oh sorry 1788. now of the of that first fleet there were 11 ships and 1400 convicts marine sailors colonial officers and free settlers as well so there were a part of that so they weren't all just these convicts and prisoners and everything like that but I asked you to set the table about what was happening in Britain, but also there's a wider conflict going on with the French.

You want to read some parts of it? I'm going

to give you a series of quotes, so just sort of hang on them.

So this is on the first page or so, and these are, I'm not going to read you the 150 pages, Steve.

So this is from the verdict from the High Court? Yeah, we're just, yeah, this is 150 pages on Mabo, and it's mostly waffle.

But there's some important points.

Oh, it is, and you'll hear it as a minute.

There's somebody that calls these guys treasonous.

Is this where Terra Populi comes in? Yes, it

And I think a lot of people would acknowledge that COVID proved that, you know, how fragile our freedoms are, especially in this country.

Well, may I suggest, mate, that I actually read through these 10 things that are in the American Bill of Rights.

So we've got an idea what we're talking about, you know, because when we come to the Queensland Human Rights Bill, as I'm going to say in a minute, it's the greatest piece of rubbish that Penn ever went to paper.

And I'm going to read it to you and show you just why.

It's just straight in the garbage bin and it's written by a bunch of bureaucrats.

There's not a political philosopher among the writers.

But let's just read through these 10 things.

Yeah, that's it.

Do you think I'm on the right track with that?

Yeah.

Yeah, hold that thought.

We're going to jump on that in the second breath.

The first breath is that Aristotle was sitting on a beach and I think there was something about a sitting in a tub, but along came the king to ask him some question as the silly old bugger sat on the beach pondering his navel or the sky and wanted some answers to questions.

And it wasn't just Aristotle, but there was a Greek understanding of human endeavour.

And they decided that there were several different levels of virtues, of pursuing excellence.

If we're taking into the concept of the meaning of life and trying to achieve and reach excellence, if we want Australia to achieve and Australia to reach excellence for the benefit of all Australian people, what do we start to do when we focus on our structure of government? What are the solutions? How do we move forward and bring in a better system?

... uh, you know, is really exciting?

Well, it wasn't until I finished that I looked back at, at, at, of the people that I'd chosen to write about, and it wasn't...

I had to find people that there was enough information on.

You know, if they, if they, if he, if they just did a thing, I didn't have enough.

Um, but I, I, I don't know.

Which ones did I enjoy? There's one that we don't really pick up on much, and it's a guy called Tom Wills, Thomas Wills, the great cricketer.

And I look at it, and it definitely, one of our great sportsmen.

... there's, there's even sort of romance that you like to touch on.

So in saying all that, firstly, do you think that's accurate? Where did you get that from, mate? This was a website called AustralianPolitics.com.

Oh, okay, because I didn't want to upset one of your listeners.

And so that is extremely idealistic.

And another polite word would be to say naive, and they need to do more study on what they're talking about.

Firstly, there's a bit of an evolutionary thing.

We sort of moved along with little bits and pieces in stages.

The person writing it has picked on the right dates.

Do you think that's a fair comment?

The Christian foundations for not only the American constitution, but the British empowerment and sovereignty, these are both very, very strong, aren't they, in the formation of our constitution?

Yeah.

I'm going to jump deep into this one with the democracy.

And it's really necessary because we think we're a democracy because we vote for politicians.

That's not a democracy.

They do the same thing in China and they do the same thing in Russia.

But what you do is you've got parliamentary democracy in as much as you're voting for people who then do whatever they like for the next so many years.

This word responsible, when we talk about government, how does that fit into how we understand the Constitution? Well,

How do you want to kick this off?

Well, we're going to sort of, you know, we got back into this thing about the four big questions, the nature of God, nature of man and the nature of society.

But the thing is, now that we're up to the nature of society, there is only one way to discuss this sort of social philosophy.

and that's with a red wine.

You've got to have the leather chair, the cigar, if you can do that, and the wine.

Now, the problem is I had my head in this bucket for, I had 12 years of this, and then I became a professor.

Well, all this philosophy and red wines meant that I was on my way to becoming a dedicated alcoholic.

What are your thoughts on the two types of democracy?

... talking point?

You could, we could, we, you know, we could have a glass of wine and push that around a bit.

I mean, um, in terms of how you define your society, um, really does stem on how you even understand yourself.

But we'll come to this business of self in relationship in a minute because that brings us to this whole business of social order and construct.

Um, so, so it's there, but I just wanted to let out the plane.

Before we, we, we appreciate the, the, the impact of an understanding of the revelation of God coming to us, how then do we have self-understanding, just to begin with, and, and, uh, you know, with, with fellas that were dealing with these subjects just as, as human beings.

So we pursue this a bit more and we come to this, that this dualism business- Of the flesh and the in- intellect.

So here's my question: Can a non-Christian society adopt Christian values?

Yes,

in the package of stories that I did for the LA Times, we pulled out four people for sort of mini profiles and Angel Delgadillo was one of them because he's sort of the godfather of Route 66.

What a visionary.

Yeah.

So those are two of my favorite places.

But then there's a third sort of favorite place that I would mention just because it's so unusual.

As you head west from New Mexico into Arizona, in northern Arizona, just before you get to Petrified Forest National Park, like exit 319 from I-40, if you take the exit and you go a mile up the road and you get to a locked gate, And you text a phone number and you send them your driver's license, persuade them that you're trustworthy, just basically by saying, you can trust me.

I'm like,

... sort of like-

See, someone saying...

Yeah.

Um, I've just been reviewing a, a number of statements, um, Christ- statements of faith by people who were fundamental in writing the US Constitution.

And no doubt about it, they were, uh, um, men of incredible faith as well as understanding of their society.

But let me give you a reading out of a book called The Federalist Papers.

Now, The Federalist Papers were written by about four guys.

... mind?