Christopher Pappas

I think, even if political parties, by the way, were to accept this logic of a global agreement, make you an example.

In Hawick, where Christopher Pappas is

mayor,

in Umgen, local

And when the votes were counted, he chose to stay on as mayor of Mgeni rather than take up a seat in the provincial legislature.

My guest today is Mayor Chris Pappas.

In this conversation, Chris opens up about his upbringing on the farm, the people who shaped him, and the path that led him into leadership.

We talk about what it really means to stay humble when you hold power.

whether you follow politics closely or avoid it at all costs.

I think you'll find this an honest and refreshing conversation about purpose, service, and staying grounded.

So grab a cup of coffee, settle in, and let's go investigating Ikigai with Chris Pappas.

So welcome, Chris.

So

Chris Pappas is going to pull it out? Absolutely,

yeah.

I'm going to put a bet on that.