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And, and we have physical, uh, proof.

But it, it's not just that site.

There's a, it's a, it's a larger extension.

If you're a history buff like me, it was a beautiful excuse to dive deeper into that.

But also, you know, it's not like that trail is just history.

All I wanna do is chase icebergs.

So how do you get there and then how do you get around once you are there?

Most people are going to arrive via flight in St. John's.

Personally, I'd recommend spending three, four days in St. John's.

There are a lot of sites in and around St. John's that you'll want to visit.

It's not just the city.

I mean, the city itself, like George Street is the famous street where there's live music and always something going on, but it's actually what's around it.

You'll want to go up to Signal Hill.

So aside from bringing lenses, what is the most important thing people should understand before they visit? What do you want to leave them with?

Yeah.

So I grew up in Salt Park in Houston and we was evicted from several homes.

And it got to a point where my dad shut down a church.

We had to live in the church for a year and a half.

Didn't have any.

My birthday's on Christmas.

That's how I get my name, Chris.

I remember Red Cat in Houston.

So let, let, let, let's go, uh, Chris, I, I'm gonna, y- you can probably wrap your answer into this because, um, bring this thing in for a landing here in a few moments here, but kind of like just thinking about like looking ahead, and I was interested d- to you, Chris, from ILSR's vantage point, tracking community broadband networks across the country, what makes the tribal broadband movement, for lack of a better term, distinct from other community broadband efforts, would you say?

I think the challenges that it faces.

I mean, you know, it's not easy for a municipality, let's just say like a city in Iowa, to decide to build a network, but, uh, there's a process, there's, uh, you know, a stability.

Um, there's, uh, a sense of how to approach capital markets because they have authority to bond.

And then you take that into, um, into Indian country where, um, there's, uh, usually less, uh, in terms of capital available.

Uh, they're not able to borrow because, uh, because the land is held in trust by the federal government.

They can't just access the same sort of financial instruments that a municipality can.

So, like, why don't you two, as w- before we head out of here, kind of give us a picture of what people can expect and, and, and how, like, people that might wanna get involved in these things in the future f- like, find out more about it.