Christoph Blocher

There were really only just two people that were constantly, constantly named again and again and again.

Vladimir Putin and the other one is our local Swiss oligarch, Christoph Blocher, who is one of the former leaders of our right-wing party, the People's Party.

He's now more or less out of politics.

This is probably his last kind of big political engagement because he came, of course, publicly out as one of the big supporters, including with money of the initiative.

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... called, um, Christoph Blocher.

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He poured a lot of money into this, and, uh-

Oh.

So he-

Christoph Blocher?

I don't know.