But also, I think it could be risky, because what if you let other, you know, secondary players catch up to you, not catching up truly, but take a little bit of market share from you because of your closed ecosystem?

There's first mover advantage, but also first isn't always best.

So the industry is a little rocked right now at how, um, how effective it is and how many signups there are.

I'm talking about Muse.

And everyone else is sitting back watching, "Okay, they're doing this, they're doing that.

We'll move second, we'll move third, and we'll be better." Apple is just, like, sitting back eating grapes, like, "Mm, uh-huh, uh-huh.

We're gonna do this.

I'll shut up and you guys talk.

'Cause that's one of the debates, I think, in the Crash, is, uh, how much time for Mackenzie to serve do you think is fair?

My brother is never coming back, so [laughs] that's...

I don't think she should ever get out.

Um, she took two young, beautiful young men's lives.

I, I had a lot to say to my brother.

Um, I could never say goodbye.

My kids couldn't say goodbye.

[laughs]

When you hear her whining to the mother who totally empowers her that she can't get an iPad fast enough and she doesn't have enough amusements b- amusements behind bars, exposing her breast to a visitor, she's not worried at all about Dominic or what happened.

No, that's...

And I really appreciate you bringing to light and exposing her and everybody in that, you know, that has to- anything to do with her.

I appreciate you helping our family bring that to light and exposing them for who they are.

They've done a pretty good job, I think, of exposing themselves, um, as you can hear what's going on.

But it's...

I, I try to stay away as best as I can.

I didn't mean for this to happen"?

When you see these headlines, you know, that she's bored in prison or that she got caught having some lesbian affair on her tablet, what goes through your mind? Are you just waiting for the headlines to go away? I mean, is it making you angrier? Are you becoming numb? What's happening?

I don't know.

I'm not surprised whatsoever.

I can't wait for the day if it ever happens.

I don't think it will.

I just think, like I said, that she's just a bad person.

I mean, in the interviews that I'm hearing with her parents and things like that, it's just not stopping.

Yeah, please.

So where does the law stand right now, and how did you get the process started?

I woke up a month ago, and I was like, she's gonna try to, she already has, you know, crowdfunded, and she's gonna try to use her name now to, when she gets out, become Instagram famous like she's always wanted.

She's getting stuff sent to her in prison, things like that.

And I woke up one day, and I was like, I have to find a way to stop this.

So...

I was like, let's modernize the Son of Sam's.

Well, I didn't know at the time, but there's the HB 505.

How do you protect your peace but also, you know, continue to try to live the best life you can to honor your brother?

No, I'm an only child.

Oh, wow.

Okay, that's crazy.

So I'm one of seven, and we're an Italian, very tight-knit, close family.

Each one of us means the world to everybody.

We're all important pieces to this puzzle.

He's gone, and we are messed up.

And to me, it looked like that's obviously maybe the police were really looking into this and they saw that and it's time to get her because I think that was just very insensitive.

Yeah.

Yep.

She, um, Kenzie had actually tried...

So Kenzie, two weeks prior, was driving her vehicle and was threatening to crash the car with Dom in it.

He made phone calls to certain people.

There were multiple people that heard the phone calls of her screaming, "I'm gonna kill you.

I'm gonna crash this car." He was able to get her to pull over and got picked up from the side of the highway.

Can you just give us a little bit about Dom?

Is there some relief in that?

Yeah.

No, this is it's a complete disaster.

We this is terrible.

I wish the movie never came out.

There's been.

First of all, we don't even know what processing my brother's death looks like.

When was it that your mind started to change and you were like, this isn't an accident? Was it during the trial when things started to come out that you were unaware of? Or was it prior to that?

was there something in the documentary that made you think about this because is she making money off the documentary or was there something that happened or the response to it that you said this is a wake-up call

um There was a few things, actually.

One that was all that she's ever cared about is attention and social media.

From the second that she killed my brother and Davion, she laid in a hospital bed a couple hours after, a few hours after making TikToks and posting on Instagram for modeling gigs.

That's really all she's ever cared about.

The movie itself, I just know that when she gets out, if she gets out, which I hope she doesn't, Even if it's in 20 years, she's eligible for parole in 11 years.

Even if it's in 20 years, she still has, she'll be, I don't know, almost 40 years old, pretty young.

Just how are you doing through all this?

... what that means is if there are eyeballs on it, there are opportunities there, and it seems like this is where you're triggered.

Yeah, it's absolutely infuriating.

Um, it's exactly what she's always wanted.

Um, she's laid in, you know, the second after she killed my brother and Davion, within hours of killing two young men, she laid in a hospital bed making TikToks and trying to get modeling gigs on Instagram.

Um, that's all she's ever cared about.

So it is infuriating that this did so well because she has exactly what she wants.

Um, and that's where the petition that I just started to modernize the Son of Sam's Law, um, the Dom and Davion's Law, I'm trying to make it so that she cannot profit off of my brother's and Davion's murder, and people like her can't profit, or profit.

Yeah

Christine Russo, why are they laughing?

Um, you, somebody tell me that, please.

Uh, that's, it's the most twisted, um, most evil laugh to me that I've ever heard in my life.

Um, I don't understand why they think this is funny, or why her being an evil murderer for the entire world to see, how that's funny to them.

I really truly believe, and that's why I'm starting this, the Dom's and Davion's Law, is that they care so much about her becoming famous and popular, um, that-That is what they're set out to do, and that's what they've always cared about.

It's always been about becoming Instagram famous, TikTok famous, um, for years.

Even after she killed my brother and Davion, she laid in the hospital bed hours after killing two people, hours after filming herself making TikToks and trying, her and her mother trying to get modeling gigs on Instagram within hours after killing people.

To Christine Russo, Dominic's sister, star of the Big Sister Unhinged podcast, creating and curating her brother's legacy, I'd like to hear your response to everything we've discussed tonight.

the whole thing, but parts of it, yeah.

One of the pieces of it is Dominic texted my dad at 2:53 in the morning, "I love you." Everybody was like, "Oh, that was suggestive that he, um, you know, knew this was gonna happen or that he had something to do with it." Completely left.

I want everybody to know that my father texts all of his seven children I love yous all the time randomly, and that's something that we do back.

So it's wasn't that that was Dominic knew this was gonna happen or, um, it was some type of piece of evidence.

That it was just...

And it's not uncommon.

We do it all the time, so stuff like that.

What did you observe of their relationship?

Do you think this is just a third phase that we're all just gonna have to get used to and leverage to our advantage?

It's a third phase, but more, not really in that way.

So, uh, during digital transformation, let's say 2017, 2018, for s- for some others earlier, like 2012, that was really just the pathway leading us to where we are now.

Did we know it at the time? No.

And also, I think what it reinforces is that we're on a journey, and even AI where we are now is a journey.

Two, two and a half years ago, Gen AI.

Two years ago for early adopters, agentic AI.

But what do you think is happening in the s- world of commerce?

'Cause that's one of the debates, I think, in the crash, is, uh, how much time for Mackenzie to serve do you think is fair?

My brother is never coming back, so [laughs] that's, I don't think she should ever get out.

Um, she took two young, beautiful young mens' lives.

I, I had a lot to say to my brother.

Um, I could never say goodbye.

My kids couldn't say goodbye.

My dad's life is completely ruined.

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