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One of the biggest myths about trauma is that healing, your healing is gonna look like somebody else's healing, right? Healing is individualized and, you know, what I love about the world that we live in is that we have a lot of access to other people's lives, right? We own social media, we get a glimpse of what people have done.

We can read books that w- and see how people have gotten from point A to point Z and what we begin sometimes unconsciously to do is say, "Okay, my journey is gonna look exactly like this other person's.

So for someone that has got no idea about that concept, could you just give us a quick kind of explanation as to how you sort of integrate that into the session for the client and kind of bring that ancestral energy, I guess, forward?

yeah so in multiple ways it and it depends on the client so i'm going to be a little more general with this is that one way is debunking this idea that all our ancestors passed down to us are these negative things you know people come in and they're like i'm healing from my trauma oh my gosh all this intergenerational trauma right and like Sure, right? Our ancestors had their things, right? Of course, such is being a human.

And at the same time, those aren't the only qualities that have been passed down.

So a lot of it is looking at what were the tools that your ancestors needed to survive the things that they've been through? How have those tools helped you? How have those tools, and what about those tools do you want to transform to make it your own in a different way? Also, sometimes that means how do you develop a spiritual practice around honoring your ancestors? So for some people, that might mean an altar.

For some people, it's literally just putting their hand on their heart.

For some people, it's communication.

For some people, it is using spiritual practices to heal their ancestors.

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