I

did.

By that point...

I was interested in joining the business, and a friend of my father's had a music store in California.

And he had come to visit, and he was the one that said, aren't you going to join the family business? And I said, Fred, I don't know anything about it.

He said, all right, why don't you apply to UCLA? You're bright.

You're out of state.

What did it feel like watching that happen in real time? Did you know you were witnessing a turning point?