What is driving that? Is it the tariffs? Is it the war in Iran with gas prices? What are you guys seeing that chatter look like that people are actually saying this is what's causing that problem or this is who I blame for it?

Well, I'd say the one key thing is, and I know you're not implying this, but I do think this comes from a lot from maybe some of the national leaders of political committees.

It's not all one thing because we go into one area.

It's about groceries.

We go to another area.

It's about homeowners insurance.

We go to another area.

Last thing I'll ask you, is there an issue right now? I mentioned like flock cameras and data centers and Maha and social media that you're hearing and seeing online that people are having that hasn't risen to the level of maybe showing up as a number one issue in a poll.

Before we jump in, what are a couple of the things that have surprised you that you've learned through listening to the podcast?

That's a great question.

Um, [clears throat] I think I kinda come out of, uh, all the, the different stories with a really good understanding that every birth story is unique, and that no birth story is boring or not fun to talk about.

There's always something that makes it just a little bit more unique than the next one, and I think that's really cool.

On a nerdier level, I feel like I know a lot of the different crazy terms-

Yeah.

It's also been really cool to watch you interview all these different people with all these great and amazing stories.

But today, I kinda wanna flip the script and ask you the questions, and have you do most of the storytelling of our second son's birth.

So let's talk about, so for, for someone listening to this who has no idea what the experience might be like, talk about what was it like when you first started? What was it like when you first got started, got into onboarding that first two, four, six weeks? And then how does, how has kind of your experience evolved over the last, you know, two to three months being eight months?

Yeah.

So the onboarding was great.

I mean, you know, for somebody that had never touched a kettlebell in his life, you know, it was spot on, you know, gave the right instruction to get started in the program.

But interestingly enough, I think it was my first or maybe my second exercise or workout in the program, I was doing two-handed swings and lifted with my arms and felt a pull in my back, in my lower back.

And I'm like, that sucks.

I finished the workout.

Do you feel like you have changed the way that you, like your certain beliefs around your health? Is there anything that maybe you believed pre-KT that you, after going through this process for the last seven, eight months, you realize either like that's not true or you've developed new kind of thought patterns or belief around certain things?

So like, what do you do if you're Mike Rogers in that scenario?

Well, again, I think the key is that there's not a one-size-fits-all.

What's going to work for Mike Rogers is not going to work for Ken Paxton, for example.

And I think that's the challenge.

A lot of times these campaigns end up getting run the same way no matter where they are.

And there's got to be a level of understanding of strategic framework.

And I would say the way that we motivate low-profile Republicans is really relevance and timing.

So why do you think that happened? And I guess, what do you make of today's polls?

So, uh, yeah, we're back to communism, so, uh...

Well, and what a great example for us and the rest of the country to give is look at what's happening here.

And, and I'll tell you, in Michigan, um, you don't let Abdul El-Sayed's actual positions define the contrast.

Do they m- uh, do-- we can't make his identity or his religion the issue.

I think that's morally wrong and strategically counterproductive.

But if we make who he is and what he stands for the issue and the comments that he's made, then absolutely that works.

And then I think Republicans have gotta run against dysfunction, not just the Democrats.

So, like, what do you do if you're Mike Rogers in that scenario?

Kind of what happened to spark that quick growth and talk us through how that

was.

Yeah, definitely.

Yeah, 2025 was a big year for Chris Wilson Fitness Studio, opening the three locations.

So yes, we opened in Applecross, South Perth, and then we moved our Netherlands studio to a bigger space.

So our Netherlands studio is now four times bigger than our original Netherlands studio.

Brilliant.

training.

And you wrote, "The half-life of AI skills is only about one to two years, compared to eight to 10 for traditional soft skills." What, what does that mean, and what impact does that have on the way that people in government should think about how they're educating their people?

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Uh, so a recent study came out saying the half-life of AI skills is only about one to two years, compared to the eight to 10 on the traditional soft skills.

So, um, what that means is that any AI literacy strategy that you execute with, uh, within the workforce ha- has to be reinforced continuously.

So by the end of year one, just to define what that half-life means, end of year one, 50% of the skills that an employee has developed related to AI have already diminished.

And so now they have to re-up that effort based on changes that have taken place in, with respect to AI technology, et cetera, to ensure they're keeping up with the pace of technology and the pace of change.

Are there questions that the people at agencies are not asking you that you think they should, that you go away from these meetings and go, "Oh, they didn't even talk about this thing"?

Just talk us through that, first of all.

That was one of the most remarkable and astounding moments throughout our period of research.

It really just came from searching for the address of his flat that he rented in Dunedin.

And that address came up with a real estate advertisement.

The place was for sale at that time.

So this is in 2024, so five years after the attack.

And we could see that the images in this, the several photos of his lounge, his kitchen, his bedroom, contained the belongings that we recognised from a photograph of a trailer after the police had thrown out all his items.

Just explain how you went about that.

Just talk us through that, first of all.

That was one of the most remarkable and astounding moments throughout our period of research.

It really just came from searching for the address of his flat that he rented in Dunedin.

And that address came up with a real estate advertisement.

The place was for sale at that time.

So this is in 2024, so five years after the attack.

And we could see that the images in this, the several photos of his lounge, his kitchen, his bedroom, contained the belongings that we recognised from a photograph of a trailer after the police had thrown out all his items.

Just explain how you went about that.

Their final

sacrifice.

so the corn can't grow mama when chicken the

corn so the corn can't grow when chicken the corn so the corn can't grow mama when chicken the corn so the corn can't grow

What exactly is a supper club, and what's the vibe where you guys are?

So we leaned into just kind of the nostalgic representation of a supper club, right? So it's something that's, it's more about the feeling and the food that comes along with it.

So that comfort, kind of like, you know, going out with your grandparents to a nice fancy dinner, you know, so that's the vibe that we're capturing in there.

It's a lot with our decor, the food, the staples, the prime rib, walleye, cod, cheese curds, of course, and all those accompaniments that come with this supper club.

This is delicious, by the way.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

So with this cocktail, we're going to stick with the white creme de coco, and then that's going to give us our nice chocolate-based flavor in there.

So Heritage Hall is the main museum for the region that we want to all go to.

It is the newest museum in Southeast Kansas.

They opened just last summer.

I tell folks, if you want to learn, if you are not into the research end and you just want to kind of learn about the area, you go to Big Brutus because seeing Big Brutus is what Makes you realize just how important mining was to our area when you're standing at the base of Big Brutus and you look up at that 160 foot tall shovel and you're like, wow, this thing is big.

But then you also go to Heritage Hall Museum in Frontenac because what they have done is they've turned their little museum into a coal camp.

You are walking around and you actually feel like you're in what Frontenac would have been like 100 plus years ago.

You walk through the door and the first thing you see is the train depot.

Because obviously, you know, people move out when they, you know, go to college and then, oh, it's like I'm going to L.A., you know, and then, you know, 20 years later, they're like, I want to go home.

Yeah.

And because this was all done in open source software, uh, which is software where anybody can go in and actually read the specific instructions that the, and steps that the, uh, the program is taking and modify it.

Uh, because it was done that way, people started making tweaks and improvements, and they would take what, what Dana had done and say, "All right.

Well, if we change it to allow this new feature, or to give insulin under these circumstances, it works even better." And people would talk about these, uh, proposed improvements, and they'd get passed around Facebook groups, and email chains, and, uh, text messages, and who knows what back, back in those days, and discussed at conferences like dData.

And so over time, the algorithm was improved, uh, and fairly rapidly.

Um, and, uh, around that time when all of this stuff was going on outside of phones, uh, some people who were iPhone developers decided that they were at least going to do something similar, and using the same pumps and the same G- CGMs with the instructions for connecting to and controlling them that, uh, that, that Dana and the other people who had started working on this had, had figured out.

Where did this come from? Who is creating this? Who named it? Right? Like, who currently owns this?

Okay.

Is that reasonable?

That's one claim that we disagree with quite heavily.

As I've mentioned, our focus is not so much to apportion blame to him having been missed beforehand.

There were a number of opportunities, which I'll mention in a second, for him to be detected beforehand and perhaps for the attack to have been prevented.

but the agencies should be commended if they had picked that up.

It's very, very difficult in real time.

Our focus is very much on learning from those mistakes and then so that we can hopefully prevent a similar event occurring in the future, which we don't believe the inquiry has done properly.

Can you describe to us the character that you researched in the book? What was the terrorist's true nature? For anyone who valorises his kind of behaviour, what was he actually like?

Is that reasonable?

That's one claim that we disagree with quite heavily.

As I've mentioned, our focus is not so much to apportion blame to him having been missed beforehand.

There were a number of opportunities, which I'll mention in a second, for him to be detected beforehand and perhaps for the attack to have been prevented.

But the agencies should be commended if they had picked that up.

It's very, very difficult in real time.

Our focus is very much on learning from those mistakes and then so that we can hopefully prevent a similar event occurring in the future, which we don't believe the inquiry has done properly.

Can you describe to us the character that you researched in the book? What was the terrorist's true nature? For anyone who valorises his kind of behaviour, what was he actually like?

[laughs]

My point is immediately proved.

The debate is over.

[laughing] But I will continue.

[clears throat] [laughing] Another experiment.

Audience, I am going to imitate somebody, and you can tell me if you think it's flattering or not.

How's that sound? [cheering] Woo.

[laughs]

Here's Chris Wilson of the Australian Federal Police.

We've obviously got, uh, romance scams, which have plagued Australia for years.

But then also we've got a lot of the, um, investment type of opportunities that, uh, Australians look to, I guess, invest money in due to rising cost of living.

That has seen a real upturn and spike in frequency and amount.

So I mean, online scams at the moment are costing Australia one to two billion dollars a year alone.

We're considered to be a very green country when it comes to online scams.

And when I say green country, we're a very rich target.

These criminals have specific types of people in mind.

But it seems to me what you're saying is, voters right now, from what you guys are reading, are more interested in, yeah, yeah, yeah, you did all this bad stuff, but is he willing to fight for me?

Yeah, that's exactly right.

So to answer the question, if I was advising Collins or the NRC or anything like that, I'd recommend a few priorities.

The first one is you got to run against Washington.

And right now, I think if you're seen as running for Washington, then you're in a difficult situation.

It used to be that John Cornett, for example, could have said, look at all these great things I've done for the state of Texas.

And now that actually ends up hurting you.

What advice should I give Republican House members who are running for reelection? to talk about what advice can we give them about how to message the issue of affordability, gasoline, whatever, knowing everything that you just laid out?

What would you say to the cynics of USL2 saying this is kind of just a way, a fundraising system for corporate USL?

Hmm.

I, I guess, is kind of the best way I can say it.

Uh, this is not like USL1 and USL Championship where there's a huge expansion fee.

The expansion fee is tens of thousands at most, and that is spread out over two to three years.

And so it's not like USL is raking in millions of dollars every year, 'cause if you have, you know, 20 expansions at $20,000, that's only $40,000, or $400,000.

It's probably closer to 30 to 40,000, but that's still not a huge chunk of money.

Hmm.

Did, did you ever consider this second career of yours while still competing? Did it ever cross your mind that you might end up where, where you are now?

So, um, towards the end of my career, my last event was October of 2019.

I would say the last year to year and a half of my career, those thoughts started to sort of take more meaning.

And in that world, in the professional golf world, if you don't have all of your chips pushed in, you're playing against 145 or 50 guys every week that do.

I think when your brain starts to think about other things and plan Bs and, and the rest of your life and, like, what's the next career, like, you've already taken some of those chips out of the middle.

And so you're, you're not playing against everybody with everything you got.

And I got some great advice from Pat when I was making the transition, 'cause as you can imagine, he's seen a lot of really good high-level college players and amateur players who've either tried to play professionally and gone on to work in the business world successfully or unsuccessfully.

Yeah.

Talk to us about, first off, the early vote, and then where do you see this race today?

You know, I, I think it's too early to, um, e- even though it's the day of election day, to judge what the early voting actually means.

There's clearly, uh, an excitement on the Democratic side, but I think anyone who today is trying to channel some crystal ball and extrapolate what that means for November is just out throwing out fool's gold.

Because, uh, look, we saw massive turnout and enthusiasm amongst Republicans at the primary in 2022, uh, during Biden's midterm, and it didn't translate into turnout in November.

So from a data scientist perspective, I look at this as a positive because all these Democrats that are turning out are now giving me data to judge who they are for the general election, and that's actually very positive and will help my clients ultimately win.

But as you mentioned, I was executive director of the Republican Party of Texas back in the '90s.

I did Ted Cruz's first race in, uh, 2012 and all his subsequent we- races since then, and, uh, done Governor R- Ra- Abbott's work over the years.

If Cornyn somehow gets in a runoff and wins this thing in a runoff, I don't know if I'm there in November because I'm so repulsed by what I've seen here on this campaign."

Rob's older sister, Chris Wilson.

Divorce is hard on kids, and it was hard on, on, um, my brother.

Mom worked a lot of nights, you know, being a single mom, so I would take care of Robert.

Just about everyone called her Brina.

He, um, brought her to, to our home and, um, introduced us, and he said, "I, I, I think I'm going to marry her."

But there used to be a lot more, because washboards used to be as common as doing laundry.

Doing laundry for a farm family in the 19th century or running a laundry business was a really all-consuming several-day process.

Hung out to dry and then ironed.

And in the midst of all of that was the step of agitation, of agitating the clothes to help the chemicals and the water get the dirt out.