Chris Rooney

I'm trying to remember who the referee was, uh, who definitely apologized.

Chris Rooney.

No, it wasn't Chris Rooney.

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And so some shoves and some pushes, like you said, a couple jabs.

Whether it's Chris Rooney or Wes McCauley, they know when that's nothing, when it's a two-minute roughing.

Like you said, in college, if a guy does it two, three times, give him a 10.

Don't penalize the team.

You know what I mean? And that was, I thought that was some of the best advice because then you don't get yourself in trouble when you call that cross check and overtime that you have to call.

It's like, well, there it was.

It was the same in the first period as it was now, you know, but the refereeing in the NHL, your thoughts, cause you, you have the Chris Rooney's the West McCauley's, um, their next level, um, And then, and you have like, you know, maybe five, six of those guys.

And then for me, there's a chasm to the newer guys that are coming up that really shouldn't be there because they don't have the experience.