Chris Miller

Completely.

Chris Miller, he has this book, Chip Wars.

And in that book, he's interviewing a first Trump administration official.

And they say something like, you know, oh, weaponized interdependence, that's a beautiful thing.

Right

... by, by Chris Miller.

Um, you know, certainly people in Congress, it's a bipartisan issue, have a real understanding.

But an understanding of the problem is very different from actually, like, solving the diagnosis.

The cars were rented through Hertz Norway, whose vehicles are provided by Geely, China's largest automotive holding group.

Cars with Chinese electronics and software have dozens of sensors, cameras, and microphones, creating a surveillance vulnerability, according to Christopher Miller, author of Chip Wars.

The problem with Chinese cars, where the software is written in China and where the Chinese security services have complete access to what their companies do, is that we just can't verify, uh, what is and is not secure.

Michigan Senator Alyssa Slotkin, a Democrat who once served in the CIA, co-sponsored with Republican Senator Bernie Marino of Ohio legislation to ban vehicles using Chinese sensors, calling these vehicles surveillance packages on wheels.

Let's, let's have someone who understands all of this stuff better than certainly I do get into it [laughs] get, get into it with us.

Everybody remembers Chris Miller.

He wrote a fantastic book that Marc and I talk about all the time called Chip War: The Fight for the World's Most Critical Technology, which was a huge bestseller.

He's a non-resident senior fellow with AEI.

If you only look at who manufactures a chip and which country that chip comes from, you miss all of the complexity in the value chain.

Tufts Professor Chris Miller is author of the book Chip War.

He also advises semiconductor startups.

You often miss the answer as to who makes the most money per chip.