Yes.

So I would say sometimes misery loves company, right? Us mayors get together and we complain about certain things or share ideas.

I think that idea sharing is incredible.

I think to meet with consultants face to face to learn about maybe how you guys at Garmong are helping other communities tackle challenges, it always triggers something in my head.

I always fire off text messages or emails for my team of different ideas, but the camaraderie is great, and I think we've seen kind of a rough couple years around local government last year in the state of Indiana.

Um, you know, we've been told that we're not doing things correctly or, or whatever it may be.

And I think to get together to say, "No, we know we're making a difference in all of our communities" is huge, and, and you get that here at the summit.

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