Chris Hughes

I tried it myself.

It wasn't quite working, and then Chris Hughes put together a team f- to produce it, and that was, like, this such a great experience.

And he did The Prisoner as well.

So we got the right version in the end.

All the, all the tunes were there.

It was there, but the groove, we didn't have the groove or what, and Chris really nailed that.

So yeah, it was down to that Chris Hughes.

It was a dream for me to work with him because I, you know, did all the Tears for Fears stuff and the Adam and the Ant and stuff and all that.

And I. I thought the song was maybe a little bit more superficial than what we'd done in the past.

But when I took it into the studio and played what I had to Chris Hughes, the producer, and Ian Stanley, the keyboard player, they immediately took to it.

And so Chris insisted we play it every day to finish the song.

And it came together really easily.

Yes.

And then, but you got Chris Hughes to produce some of your early stuff.

Was he a critical person in the story and the songs that you were writing with Adam? Yeah.

Yeah, he was.