Chris Gilliard

The technology that they claim to be building isn't gonna work that way and wouldn't be worth it even if it did, [laughs] right? Um, and so, you know, that is reason why we should be pushing ahead for privacy.

Um, and, you know, shout out Chris Gilliard's forthcoming book, Luxury Surveillance, on that front.

Um, and then similarly for things like education, um, you know, for a couple of years there, everyone was scrambling to say, "Well, this is the future.

We have to train the kids to use it.

Right.

And Chris Gilliard, who has a book coming out called Luxury Surveillance, talks about these systems as technologies of isolation.

And I think that's a very clear example where if something terrible happens, you lost your mom.

That's awful.