So why don't you go into that? Because I think it was an interesting story for people to hear.

Yeah, so my brother Kirk and I, we founded the company in 1999.

We come from a pretty creative family, very artistic family.

And so we were always working with our hands.

And it took a little while until we sort of found the catalyst for starting Billy Kirk.

But that happened in Santa Monica, California.

I was out there trying to become an actor.

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Without getting too far into specifics, what problem is that trying to solve, and what's potentially on the horizon?

Yeah, so if you look at the Griffon, it was, uh, a single fleet, uh, that was really solving multiple problems in a way so...

Or filling multiple capabilities.

So NTACS aims to deliver a set of fleets, uh, more specific to roles, missions, and tasks.

That is currently still, uh, under development of specifically what are these requirements.

But what we do know is that, uh, NTACS is broken up into three phases.

Uh, the first phase will look at the replacement of the Griffon for 427, which is, uh, excellent for us.

Mm-hmm.

How do you think the culture changed as you went from a divided series of silos to more of a amalgamated approach?

Yeah.

So I think the shift primarily started on the capability side, uh, first, and then followed by structure and culture.

And like we mentioned, we had, uh, A, B, and C flight at the time, which eventually got reorganized to the SOA structure that we have today.

But we really started with the capability development back in the early twenty tens.

And what that meant was giving that baseline skill set to all the air crew, specifically insert and extract capabilities.

So as you can see, uh, in many places or sources around the Internet, we do that by conducting fast rope, repel, low hover, land on inserts, much like a lot of our partners.

What does this actually mean in practical terms?

What do you think sort of tweaked you into that direction? Like, what, what started that off?

So, um, like I said, my dad was a bit of a, a, a war buff, and I do remember as a kid, you know, he would bring me out to the airport, uh, to see aircraft kinda taking off.

So I was always interested in just the aviation aspect, even as a kid being exposed to it.

But, uh, I think it was really, you know, when I was in my early 20s, um, you know, Afghanistan was starting to really, to heat up, and, um, it, it was very apparent that there was some opportunities in the forces, uh, to really kinda be a part of that.

So in terms of, you know, looking at rotary wing, you know, I, I'm an '80s kid, uh, so I grew up with, like, Airwolf and MASH.

So there was always something appealing to me about, uh, delivering people to a fight, I guess.

So flying a helicopter, uh, has that additional, I would say, level of freedom, uh, from flying, you know, as you can slow down, stop, land anywhere, and you can really get creative in terms of how you, uh, approach aviation problems, and that was always appealing.

How does that compare to today? Can you talk much about the, the screening process for today?