Chris Beaumont

And when they hired me, I didn't know Photoshop.

And the guy who hired me, Chris Beaumont, I'll never forget his face because I was hired because I'd done a lot of presenting work previously.

And he was like, he hired me as a producer.

And I was like, I have no idea what I'm doing with Photoshop these days.

And then you've got people like Totello and Chris Plant and Chris Dring and like Shryer, I think even the YouTuber, Jason Shryer.

Yeah, he's a YouTuber now.

He's a YouTuber now, but I think his Shry guy, his newsletter on there.

They don't have a category for it.