Chris Barton

I mean, it was, like, a slow grind initially, and then things started working out.

Hey, Vedant, like, talk to me about these communities, 'cause I love it, and that's one of the first ways I got started with this podcast, was I would go to these Facebook communities and be like, "Hey, check out this interview I did with Chris Barton, the co-founder of Shazam." What was your, like, sort of, this is the benefit to the community? You know, what was your pitch to the community?

Yeah.

So it was like, you know, uh, at the time, there were these small communities that were, um, helping people cut back on, or, like, helping moms, for instance, cut back on, on alcohol, right? Like-