
Chinmayi J. Sharma
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Aug 3, 2026
LSE: The Ballpark | AI harm, accountability, and cybersecurity with Professor Chinmayi Sharma
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Chris GilsonHOST
What can anyone do at kind of the basic corporate employee level or just a member of the public who's using an AI tool as part of an email suite or something like that? Should they be doing anything? Is there anything they can do?

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
I think that as cheesy as it sounds, and maybe it's not just cheesy, it's naive, but I don't think so.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
I do genuinely believe in the, a wave is just a collection of single droplets of water.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
If you are in a company and something feels wrong, it is risky, and I'm not going to pretend it's not risky.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
But even just communicating that to one other person is a huge step in saying, "I noticed something.
8 MINS LATER

Chris GilsonHOST
Can you just talk a bit about the project you're working on and maybe explain to our listeners how the executive branch is currently or has been using AI in recent years?
LSE: The Ballpark | AI harm, accountability, and cybersecurity with Professor Chinmayi Sharma
19:14
19:29
19:35
19:40
19:48
28:06

Chris GilsonHOST
What can anyone do at kind of the basic corporate employee level or just a member of the public who's using an AI tool as part of an email suite or something like that? Should they be doing anything? Is there anything they can do?

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
I think that as cheesy as it sounds, and maybe it's not just cheesy, it's naive, but I don't think so.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
I do genuinely believe in the, a wave is just a collection of single droplets of water.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
If you are in a company and something feels wrong, it is risky, and I'm not going to pretend it's not risky.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
But even just communicating that to one other person is a huge step in saying, "I noticed something.
8 MINS LATER

Chris GilsonHOST
Can you just talk a bit about the project you're working on and maybe explain to our listeners how the executive branch is currently or has been using AI in recent years?
LSE: The Ballpark | AI harm, accountability, and cybersecurity with Professor Chinmayi Sharma
19:14
19:29
19:35
19:45

Chris GilsonHOST
What can anyone do at kind of the basic corporate employee level or just a member of the public who's using an AI tool as part of an email suite or something like that? Should they be doing anything? Is there anything they can do?

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
I think that as cheesy as it sounds, and maybe it's not just cheesy, it's naive, but I don't think so.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
I do genuinely believe in the, a wave is just a collection of single droplets of water.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
And I'm not going to pretend it's not risky, but even just communicating that to one other person is a huge step in saying, I noticed something.
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Lawfare Daily: The Dangers of Privatized, Automated Immigration Enforcement
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Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
But it's one of those areas where there's just so many different ways to approach that line of logic.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
So I don't think that I've really hidden the ball on my views of the immigration enforcement system.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
I think that you can say, I believe that we should have stringent immigration enforcement, but the way it's being carried out today is unacceptable under various legal principles, both in technical legality, but also in like fundamental principles about how we want the law to operate in the world.
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Lawfare Daily: The Dangers of Privatized, Automated Immigration Enforcement
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Tyler McBrienHOST
Um, could you talk a bit about that? 'Cause that, that really kind of, you know, jumped off the page at me.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
On one hand, it is true that we have technologies entering the space that are doing things that the government couldn't do before.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
On the other hand, and this should be a surprise to nobody and not considered at all a controversial statement, the private sector oversells.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
That's part of a business model, especially in the tech world where often, like, your minimum viable product just becomes your product because it is the thing that somebody will pay for, right? And especially in the government contracting context, the government, once it invests in a technology system, becomes dependent on it because it builds the rest of its institutions around that system.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
And so then they become legacy systems that just kind of get auto-renewed over time because it would be very onerous, cost-prohibitive even, to swap it out for another alternative.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
And the reason all this is relevant is it takes away more incentive from the private sector to continue to deliver the highest quality, most cutting edge products.

Chinmayi SharmaGUEST
If you know that you kind of have somewhat inelastic demand from your main customer, the logic just doesn't support going above and beyond as the A+ student, and this was seen in the cybersecurity context.
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