Chase Strangio

And the ACLU, full disclosure, I used to work at the ACLU.

The ACLU's main lawyer on this topic is a female, a woman who calls herself a man, named Chase Strangio.

And Chase one time said, and I'm paraphrasing, if you don't believe that trans girls are girls, and I'm putting air quotes on this, if you don't believe trans girls are girls for purposes of sport, you don't believe trans girls are girls.

And all the TERFs were like, yeah, Chase, we don't think boys are girls.

Love it.

We're gonna talk with Chase Strangio.

He's an ACLU lawyer and the first openly trans lawyer to argue in front of the Supreme Court.

And he is essentially a superhero for trans rights.

Although originally, I, I think that would have been an acceptable answer.

Um, and Chase Strangio had said in, in, in an article or an interview that originally, you know, the trans people they were talking to, the pr- inmates just did want just a third space, but they decided, the ACLU decided let's go for the whole thing and, uh, put him, get him into the women's prison.

And it's been a disaster for women.

It's...