Charlie Savage

pretty much it

yeah i mean like i think the thing for me with this game and and obviously then like it bleeds on into the narrative for the next game um is that paddy lane is has just completely reinvented his career season i don't even know it's odd wasn't it because he spent pre-season playing in those fullback positions and i even had a dig at liam in like episodes I don't know the second or third episode of this season when he had been playing like Paddy on the on the wing position and I was still like very pro Dan Chihua and I think that if anything like Paddy Lane coming out coming back from the dead quite frankly shows that no one should think that Dan Chihua's Reading career is over just because he's not playing right now I think we don't think Charlie Savage's current Reading career is over just because he's not playing right now So, you know, Chihua may well come back.

But I think for me, Lane was the quality difference in this particular game, right? I think Leighton Oren having a kind of like middling start to the season.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Richie Wellens project is sort of reaching its natural end there, unfortunately.

lot of opportunities to do that over the next few weeks, starting with that trip to Plymouth, 12.30 kick-off on Saturday.

Just a brief kind of chat around the FA Cup draw.

So obviously we found out as we were on air that we were getting Peterborough away, so Savage v Savage.

That's been picked for TV coverage.

No, Darren Ferguson was his usual grumpy self and didn't bring Tyler on.

So I think there stands more of a chance that Charlie Savage comes on.

You know, it'll be a strange occasion probably for Robbie, but you know.

It'll be hopefully a good game for the TV cameras as well.

Yeah, it definitely has.

I think, you know, when you're a son of any of those names, you look at so many others, you know, Darren Ferguson, Charlie Savage, you'll have it in a few years, you know, trying to sort of emulate, you know, what the fathers have done before them.

And Brian was such a unique character, especially in Nottinghamshire as well.

So, yeah, Nigel always carried that weight of expectation, but...

So my thing is more the overall contribution.

on the pitch in terms of the um and this is going to sound really spoiled but in terms of the statistics and the ability that we've been used to in terms of his legacy but also when you're in a game like you are against Wigan where you're in the trenches a little bit it doesn't seem to be pulling people around him and going right do this do this do this and pulling the game by the scruff of his neck Look, I don't need to sit here and defend my position on Charlie Savage because I've done it for three years.

But what I would say, being as close to the pitch as I was in the Chelsea game, he was constantly talking to players.

He was constantly saying it's not good enough, it's too easy.

That's wrong to say that because I was already pissed off.

But like, it blew my mind a little bit.

So, Andy Runamoto was booked on the 23rd minute, right? Difficult, difficult time, any time for a centre midfielder who puts tackles in to be booked then, let alone have to play what? you know 60 odd minutes or whatever for the rest of the game if you're playing the whole night need to not get a second yellow Scott Hogan scored on the 71st minute right Liam Richardson then took Andy Rinomoto off on the 77th minute and put Charlie Savage on now initially if you look at that stat straight away without looking at the time as you're thinking oh Rinomoto's been booked you know playing sensible but he played 50 minutes on a yellow card before he was taken off So what is the thinking there in terms of taking off Andy Rinomoto to put on Charlie Savage to leave Lewis Wing on at that time after they just scored? And there's still 20 minutes to play or whatever.

What's the thinking behind that? Because that doesn't make sense to me.

35 is Reading.

Charlie Savage's current team.

Father and son.

Son takes on father.

I thought the midfield, Fraser was pretty poor.

Savage tried to get the ball moving and create things.

But overall, it was just very, very stale.

It felt like we were doing all right in the first 15 minutes or so.

Could this be a mid- to longer-term solution to find the goals in the aggregate money ball without Marriott?

And a second

question, Wing was better today, but could we ever envisage a set up where Ayrton returns to the 10 role and Stokes taking a role of deeper line playmaker if Savage is unavailable or an international break before Ben questions that? I will.

I will question it.

... of, of the month based on- You know, who wins or who shouts the loudest in the WhatsApp group, that kind of stuff.

I always say Charlie Savage every month.

No one ever listens to me.

Um, but it, it, it's interesting to look at it, and then obviously we need your votes to be able to make that work, and we- we've been doing all right with interaction recently on those votes.

... f- it wasn't us.

And for whatever [laughs] reason, Bellamy chose to play Charlie Savage in midfield-

Mm

... you know, a lightweight.

So we ain't got a problem with Charlie Savage, have you? [laughs]

I don't.

I think he's a lovely lad-

The point I'm trying to make is that that Denmark game, we also did have chances, and I would argue a l- definitely one of the goals that went through Danny Ward's hand, right? So that's two Danny Ward mistakes.