So Charlie, great to have you back on.

Uh, good to be back.

Yeah, you know, the thing is, uh, The Octopus, uh, of Global Control that I wrote in twenty seventeen, the format that is what made it unique.

There's hundreds of quotes, and I thought that was really important.

You know, I thought it was, uh, you could-- Obviously, my voice is, is in that book, but I, I really wanted people to understand that this push for world government, it's not just me saying it and you saying it and people like us.

It's they're saying it too.

And if you can catch them, y-y-the words that they say, either they're writing it in books or giving speeches or in classified documents, you can then use that, their own words against them.

Yeah

Yeah

... and, and everyone's starting to, to start to ask some questions about like World War II, like, you know, like what really happened, and who were the good guys, and who were the bad guys? And, and I'm not gonna get into all, all of that.

But one component of World War II that has always been assumed is that the Germans' eugenics program was their idea, was that z- because they hated everybody, they went into the laboratory and came up with the justification, the legal justification to sterilize and then later euthanize their population of, of feeble-minded people and, you know, people who weren't going to contribute to the Reich, and all that stuff.

And, and i- in the history books, it's, it's sort of taught to us that like they just had this epiphany that they were going to, to not, um, you know, that, that they were going to, to, to start doing that and because they're a master race.

What's interesting is that Ernst Rudin, who is the head of Racial Hygiene for the Third Reich, was best friends with Margaret Sanger.

Margaret Sanger started the American Eugenics Society, which later rebranded into Planned Parenthood.

You'll know it by as the reta- retail face of abortion, the number one killer of the Black community.

Yes.

Yeah.

I, I, I will speak to this as somebody with 30 years of, uh, as a real estate broker in California and Nevada.

This is going to be a huge problem, the interest rates, because it creates paralysis on anybody who's got a decent rate.

Anybody...

I mean, and it has for a while, to be fair.

When it was at five and three quarters, it...

You know, people remembered when it was at two and three quarters or, you know, realistically three and three quarters and like, "Ah, you know, I just don't wanna give this up.

Um, do you, do you, Charlie, do you think it's also this fear of not being in control?

I will

elaborate.

Yeah.

So Bufo.

yeah yeah you booth them bufo uh no no no not that uh no but bufo is a toad secretion right these toads chill out and they meditate for 10 months out of the year in their little hole then they come out for two months and do their thing and they scrape the toad secretion and smoke it and it's dmt times you know plus love you know it's it's real it's always usually like a It's always a positive trip, you know.

And so anyway, it was an Acapulco situation.

Friday afternoon, end of the week, all my duties and responsibilities were done.

Can I guess at the dynamic? Is it a is it a spiritual, religious dynamic? I know there's a fake and gay technocratic dynamic.

just just for a definition there might and most of these people out here all already know that but there might be some people who don't know what we're talking about could you lay down just a little bit of what you're talking about and maybe if if you have one handy throwing some of those brilliant quotes you got

yeah uh so So, yeah, what I was talking about, the British East India Company, it was the largest company in the world.

And they had their own private army.

And so you think about Amazon owning Blackwater, right, and what they could do with that.

And so they would take over countries, like as an example, Africa or India.

They would go to India and kill tens of millions of Indians.

so that they could take control and set up the businesses that would then uh and and they did it a variety of ways they they they would i mean they didn't have to kill tens of millions to take control but once they took control uh they were able to kill them by starvation having it forcing them to grow like opium instead of food and they take that opium and export it to china and get all the chinese hooked on drugs I mean, it was like, and then they were running slaves.

Right.

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He's like, "He might have." You're like, [laughs] "Oh, okay." Like, but he just needed, he needed that edge.

He needed that frustrate.

He needed that to, to get him angry enough to focus.

And, and I feel simil- I'm not Michael Jordan.

Don't get me...

But I, but I f- I need to be angry enough and f- about this to, to sit down and write a book for 1,000 hours.

So what do you feel is something empowering that we can send this free audience on with before we get to the extension?

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But it, it, but the, the major cities in India are ve-va-vastly overpopulated and, and about to, you know, it, under systemic strain all times.

But the, the popul- 1.6 billion of, of people in India, total myth.

Under a billion people.

And there aren't a billion people in China either.

China ran a 45-year, one-child policy, had three famines, and also murdered 70 million people when they moved them from the farms into the cities, and they're ex- they're expecting us to believe that their population quadrupled during that time? Absolutely not.

They're lying about their numbers, too.

[laughs]

Mm.

And so the f- so, like, Cecil Rhodes, who starts Rhodes Scholarship, that scholarship is to take Americans to the UK, educate them for a couple years, move them back to the US, install them in positions of high power to subvert America from within.

You go, "Oh my God," like I had, I just thought that was, like, talented, smart people like, you know, Bill Clinton and, uh, Rachel Maddow.

Oh, wait, shit.

Oh, fuck.

They are subverters.

[laughs] Yeah, probably.

Mm.

did being the mark in the game teach you that no amount of research since has matched?

Yeah, you can be in it and not even see it.

It's crazy.

I wasn't completely delusional.

I knew that the market was overheating, but my calculation was that it's going to level out because we're still pulling all of these buyers from Southern California.

I had come from Southern California.

And it was such an easy sales pitch, trying to get somebody to convince them to move to Las Vegas where there's no state income tax and the houses are half the price and everything's clean.

So walk me through how you were able to connect these dots.

What brought you to the forefront? of the quote-unquote alternative media and why have it because you've also been involved very heavily in anarcho-poco and a lot of people would say oh well that's ultra right leaning but i've never seen you that way i've always seen you as somebody who was like truly independent and looked at every issue down the middle with their own views of those things how do you get into something like that

Actually, it started from a very simple question that my mother asked me one day.

She said, this is really interesting.

You've got all this information and these topics are fascinating.

what are you going to do with it? I didn't have an answer.

What am I going to do with what? The information? I was just interested in it.

I wasn't going to do anything with it.

of the groups that embraced Malthusianism and then went into Darwinism and even social Darwinism today.

I mean, we're talking about, you know... horrible things that again the nazis were advocating um but it became radioactive so you say they didn't just they didn't stop the eugenics program they just kind of rebranded it talk to me about that

they did in and aldous huxley's brother julian huxley uh sir julian huxley he he was the head of the british eugenics society and in 1957 they were having a bit of a a bit of a Well, a crisis, a marketing crisis, an identity with the eugenics and murder and all associated with the name.

And he wrote about...

He wrote about a concept that he wanted to bring forward into the future.

And he thought that they should rebrand the name and change from eugenics into something that sounded a little bit more aligned with their beliefs.

So he started to call it transhumanism.

And I think it's important for us to define terms and get very clear on this.

What's the second leg of this two-legged stool, if you will?

So why frame it as an octopus? How does that help us to understand how this power structure operates?

It's multifaceted, of course, and it allows you the opportunity to understand it's not just about one thing.

If it were just about making money, that would be the financial tentacle, right? But you understand that there's so much more to it.

There's ideological reason that goes into this.

There's democide.

There's the idea that the state needs to manage the human population.

I tackle this in the book stating, as I sought to find out who was behind this depopulation eugenics agenda, thinking that if I could only figure out who it was, that maybe we could put a stop to it.

Who are they? What are you referring to?

But anyway, what was, what was you like your initial thought when you, when you seen all that?

Well, I can tell you, I remember, I remember where I was.

I had three roommates at the time.

We were living at the beach in LA and, uh, we got up that morning.

Actually, someone woke me up and they're like, you need to come up and watch this.

And I was like, cause it was six o'clock in the morning where I was.

And, um, I got out of bed and went up there and I was like, you know, like watching the highlight of what had happened with the first tower.

Yeah.

where you see the clearest evidence of that today in government policy, emerging technology, as I was just talking about, or the growing influence of corporations just over our daily

lives.

Yeah.

Eugenics, it's a loaded term and it has so much baggage associated with it.

What with the murder and all.

But in 1957, Sir Julian Huxley, brother of Aldous Huxley, he was the head of the British Eugenics Society.

He made a calculation that they needed to rebrand.

But yeah, I wanted to hear your thoughts about it.

lots of things.

These are the Zionists.

These are the Satanic Jews.

This is Chabad Lubavitch.

This is the Maxwell Wexner Epstein line.

This is the Black Cube of Saturn Child Cult.

This is the Greater Israel Project.

So what do you see? How would this be addressed? I mean, I'm picturing protests or what? So the good

Oh, great.

Yeah, he wrote the foreword to the book.

His work spoke to me at a time when I really needed to hear it.

Now, the interesting thing, so I'll tell you, I break it down into eight tentacles of population control, eugenics, architects, secret societies, world governance, democide, deindustrialization, medical and cultural.

And then within each of these chapters, there's quotes that show what they're talking about Some of them are declassified memos, things that they never thought would see the light of day.

Kissinger's 1974 National Security Study Memorandum 200, which outlined the United States policy towards the third world, is that of depopulation.

Then went on to list the 13 countries.

they don't all have to be there.

So are you suspicious about how Hayden Panettiere passed? And does that tie into the depopulation agenda and the Epstein network?

Yeah.

Yes, I'm suspicious of her death.

Anybody who would be like a young Hollywood person, you would start asking questions about their recent medical history, right? I mean, did they have any sort of...

In 2021, did they agree to... you know, do something.

So like, I'd have questions about that.

I'd have questions about drugs and alcohol, which she had a past, right? So, you know, it's, it already gets a bit murky there, but then once you, you, you dig into her personal life and find out who her partner was, ex-partner was, and father of her baby.

Have you had a chance to watch the James Blunt video where he's got the kidnapped person in the boat And then he eats them at the end.

Anyways, Charlie, uh, before we, we get into our fun conversation, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? For those who haven't seen your other 10 appearances, can you tell us a little bit about yourself and where our listeners can find you and what you got going on?

Absolutely.

I'm the host of the Macro Aggressions podcast.

You can find me at macroaggressions.io or wherever podcasts are served.

I am the new owner of Activist Post, independent news website.

I bought that in January of 2025 in an all Bitcoin transaction.

So if you're looking for a place to get your news, I hope you will consider bookmarking activistpost.com.

Ooh, I like that.

he's published several very successful and very interesting books and he's got a terrific podcast as well i invited him on late in the day today he's got a book coming out real soon let's welcome back to the program the one and only charlie robinson charlie welcome back good to have you on how are you

great timing you know i was i had you on my list i was going to reach out to you and let you know about this new book because uh It's a follow up to my first book, 2017.

You know, I wrote this this book, The Octopus of Global Control.

And one of the things I noticed in writing it was that there's kind of an underlying theme with the global government or global governance or however you want to look at it.

It was that, you know.

They make a calculation along the way that this governing business would be so much easier if it wasn't for all these people.

Right.

Now, our listeners might be wanting me to ask you, where are the likes of Galton and Sanger in today's elites? Who amongst today's elites are advocating for population control, birth control, maybe using the reason, maybe using the claim that the planet is becoming overpopulated? So who are the eugenicists of 2026?

It feels good to Geico.

And now back to the show.

I've got a, um, a new book that's coming out in, in September 11th.

And there's a, there's a component of it where I get into some of these plans, these intentional, um, plans that they've, uh, run and they have names and people recognize them like the clergy plan and, um, the Morgenthau plan, but there's other ones, Theodore Kaufman, Louis Nazir.

And you go, oh, that's weird.

You guys are all interested in like flooding Western Europe and North America with people from like Muslim nations and Spanish speaking nations.

That's weird.

I don't know what you're talking about.

Do you think that, by the way? What is your opinion on that? I think it's a show trial, personally.

Oh, yeah.

Well, I mean, I just keep going back to the Spars pandemic simulation document that they did.

The document that they wrote and then the simulation that they did, simulating from the years 2025 to 2028, a fictional pandemic, but it was essentially COVID.

It was that.

And in that fictional... scenario which included things like a rapper who was employed to you know uh basically do the back that vax up sort of thing there were so many parallels between the two that it made you feel like you might actually be looking at a real script and for something.

So in that spars document, the Fauci character at the end gets arrested, right? So it all comes down on him.

I don't know if I'm actually alive.

But Charlie, tell people how they can find, uh, your work and what book you'd like them to read.

Hopefully they're getting some news over at activistpost.com. It's a fantastic resource, one-stop shop for articles written by fearless journalists writing about events that matter in the time when they matter, not three years after the fact.

You can also catch me, macroaggressions.io is my website.

You can catch the podcast wherever podcasts are served.

My book that I chose, Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins.

This was a combination of the content of the book and the timing at which it hit me.

I read this book in March of 2007.

Um, Charlie, uh, any secondary recommendation for us?

that

had been involved in some of these events or people that had a very unusual opinion about them.

So the book features quotes from over 500 different people that had a sort of like a firsthand seat to what was going on in the world.

Obviously, like the Rockefellers and Rothschilds and the Bushes and all those serious people on one side, but also Bill Hicks, George Carlin, Joe Rogan, Matt Taibbi, you know, so people that had sort of a funny take on the news as well.

And my thinking was that if, you know, if you could bring in the voices from other people and the person that you're trying to inform about all these new topics, if they were able to hear, well, look, don't take my word for it.

You know, Chris Hedges, Pulitzer Prize winning author Chris Hedges said this, this and this about that particular event, too.

It gives you a little bit more credibility.

You had to be here for what went on here in Vegas during that real estate boom,

Give us just a short statement on why for any newbies because we're preaching to the choir here mostly, but sometimes we get newbies.

The Rockefeller slash Flexner report really did damage in 1910.

It put out of business naturopaths.

It selected winners.

It allowed certain schools to turn into medical colleges and universities and basically be able to gatekeep who gets the approval to be a doctor and wear the white lab coat like Peter Hotez during interviews at his house.

So they were a gatekeeper of information and credentialism, and they used that to stifle anything that was not a pure moneymaker for the Rockefellers but might have been effective.

So it's almost impossible to measure the damage that's been done by that.

Charlie, what do you think about this one? One current political, cultural, or technological disaster that the next generation needs to be warned about?

Yeah.

Well, you know, I wrote the octopus of global control and you, and I broke down eight tentacles and one of them was the military.

And, and when I talked to people about, you know, like they would always ask me to rank like, well, what's the most dangerous one? You know, like, is it, and it, and I would always say banking, you know, it was never the military because the banks finance everything.

I mean, you know, there's no war if they don't have money for it.

So the banks are the linchpin here.

And...

And I did an episode.

So it's essentially like you're giving them your money so So they can collect any interest or profit that you'd have off of it, but they guarantee you'll have your amount that you put in.