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Charlie Milner

UK comedy writer and producer; co-host of the podcast "Andrew and Charlie Investigate:" and producer/editor of the "Boys Gone Wild" podcast, with credits on Fin vs the Internet and Fin vs History.

May 25, 2026

speaker_1HOST
2:23
Are you ready to play baseball version?
CharlieGUEST
2:27
Yes.
CharlieGUEST
2:27
I need a pen.
CharlieGUEST
2:29
Daddy, you made an oopsie-daisy.
CharlieGUEST
2:34
[laughs] Here are the rules of the game.
CharlieGUEST
2:37
When it's a contestant's turn, they will choose a letter included in the phrase of the Bubbles Game Show.
CharlieGUEST
2:45
Each letter is worth five points.

9 MINS LATER

speaker_1HOST
11:38
[laughs] All right, go White Sox.
22:51
Japan? Nice.
CharlieGUEST
22:52
Japan.
CharlieGUEST
22:52
Absolutely, uh, beautiful culture, amazing people, incredible foods, and incredible bar scene there.
CharlieGUEST
22:58
For anyone that's not been, you have to go to Japan.
27:25
Good question.
CharlieGUEST
27:25
Um, I got, uh, I got inspired when I visited, uh, Chichibu Distillery in Japan.
CharlieGUEST
27:30
Absolutely incredible.
CharlieGUEST
27:31
Uh, smaller producer.
6:55
Yeah.
CharlieGUEST
6:55
So in the mid, so this was- It was the summer of '96.
CharlieGUEST
6:57
Okay.
CharlieGUEST
6:58
That's, that's when we started, like, uh, doing music together, me and Scart kind of started playing together, and then Supervillains were basically formed in '97.
CharlieGUEST
7:05
And, you know, we've had a million different members since then, but, uh, Scart and I have been, uh, the constant the whole time.
CharlieGUEST
7:10
And, uh, I've been playing shows as lo- I, I've known Charlie as long as I've been playing shows, basically.
CharlieGUEST
7:16
So I've known, uh, Charlie and Tito and Mikey, all them guys for years and years and years.
9:09
We've done something significant here," or a person that you talked to or something that's like a milestone that kind of, like, marks, like, "Oh man, success."
46:48
[laughs]
CharlieGUEST
46:48
Only, only a couple hundred.
CharlieGUEST
46:50
[laughs] At least one or two.
CharlieGUEST
46:53
Yeah.
CharlieGUEST
46:53
Yeah, no, but you know, it's, I think the sort of, you know, live life with no regrets is, is a little bit of a cliche.
CharlieGUEST
47:02
I think it's okay to have regrets.
CharlieGUEST
47:03
You just have to learn from them, right? So that's, that's how I sort of live, yeah.
47:56
It was weird.
9:27
And look, I mean, th-th-this wasn't-- it's not sort of, you know, if you think of I'm an ambitious Labour politician who wants to get back into Westminster, um, Makerfield, despite being a Labour seat, isn't necessarily the first thing that you think of.
CharlieGUEST
9:43
It's not the one I would've picked.
CharlieGUEST
9:44
Um, the, the way that Makerfield, it used to be a very reliable La-Labour seat, a very strong Labour seat.
CharlieGUEST
9:51
Um, in ninety-seven, Labour won seventy-four percent of the vote there.
CharlieGUEST
9:55
Um, and things more or less continued in that direction until, uh, the twenty tens.
CharlieGUEST
10:02
Um, they did get sixty percent in twenty seventeen, but then that dropped in twenty nineteen as it did in many places down to forty-five, and they didn't recover that in the last general election in twenty twenty-four.
CharlieGUEST
10:13
Um, and in the wake of the local elections recently, it probably would be unwise for us to consider anywhere a safe Labour seat.

5 MINS LATER

15:37
Mm-hmm.
30:35
[singing]
30:37
I can't stop reading.
30:40
When I see your face, I can't stop feeling.
30:42
I'm reeling.
30:44
This can't be reeling.
30:45
You're too gorgeous to be true.
30:50
[laughs]

29 MINS LATER

60:10
Yikes.
DanHOST
30:49
We've done something significant here," or a person that you talked to or something that's like a milestone that kind of, like, marks, like, "Oh man, success."
CharlieGUEST
30:57
Mi- a big milestone for us was [laughs] I think it was 1995.
CharlieGUEST
31:05
No, '94.
CharlieGUEST
31:06
1994, uh, the day before my first day of 11th grade, we opened for the Bosstones at The Edge.
CharlieGUEST
31:18
The night before-

7 MINS LATER

DanHOST
38:28
Yeah.
CharlieGUEST
38:28
And so at any, you know, at one given time, there might've been four or five just horn players.
CharlieGUEST
38:34
Um, but then for the core and for the, a, a good long chunk of, uh, Spit Valves when we were, you know, playing some, some good shows and had a good little run, there were seven players, uh, seven membersUm, Tito on drums, uh, Mikey on guitar, uh, Ricky on trumpet, Chris on sax, and at the time we did have a trombone player, but it, we went through a few of them.
5:24
What's the latest with him, especially as the, we're trying to figure out what the tackle picture looks like in this class?
CharlieGUEST
5:31
Yeah, man, I had a chance to sit down with him out at Edge, came off the field running gas is where he was beating most of the, most of the DBs and the small athlete guys to get across the field.
CharlieGUEST
5:38
But man, I got a chance to sit down with him.
CharlieGUEST
5:40
Uh, he told me, you know, he plans on committing with June 21st, and, you know, he takes his official visit, uh, June 19th through the 20th to Texas, so Texas gets the last official visit.
CharlieGUEST
5:47
But man, like, this kid's been a Longhorn fan [laughs] since, I don't know, since he was little, right? Uh, went to Lake Travis.
CharlieGUEST
5:53
He knows Jackson Cook.
CharlieGUEST
5:55
Uh, talks to Trevor Goose, be like, "Coach Kalfa's development track record of tackles stands out to him." He, he mentioned, you know, Kelvin Banks now Goose, who's projected to be a first-round pick coming to next year's draft.
7:07
Who are, are some of the teams Texas is, uh, contending with for this one?
speaker_6UNKNOWN
86:54
Mm-hmm.
CharlieGUEST
86:55
Yeah.
CharlieGUEST
86:55
It's always like any time you're, you're working a job and, uh, there is a new guy that comes along, you, you just, you don't have time for new friends.
CharlieGUEST
87:05
You're not...
CharlieGUEST
87:06
You're automatically not gonna be sure about this guy, you know? But then just by, by starfishing 'em, you know, you figure it out.
MylesHOST
88:06
Stuck out
CharlieGUEST
88:06
...
CharlieGUEST
88:06
the, the physics of it is impossible.
JosieGUEST
2:12
Bluey!
CharlieGUEST
2:14
Here are the rules of the game.
CharlieGUEST
2:16
When it's a contestant's turn, they will choose a letter included in the phrase of the Bubbles game show.
CharlieGUEST
2:23
Each letter is worth five points.
CharlieGUEST
2:25
If you choose a letter that appears more than once in the phrase, the question will be worth as many times as that letter appears.
CharlieGUEST
2:34
For example, if you choose the letter B, that question will be worth 15 points.
CharlieGUEST
2:42
If the contestant wins 50 points or more, they will earn access to Club Bubble.

10 MINS LATER

JosieGUEST
12:35
[car roaring] [upbeat music]
LizaHOST
4:27
Uh-huh
CharlieGUEST
4:28
... uh, Doug, who comes in.
CharlieGUEST
4:29
I call him my cousin.
CharlieGUEST
4:30
He's actually not.
CharlieGUEST
4:31
He's my wife's cousin, but we hang out more than I hang out with my wife.
CharlieGUEST
4:34
So, uh, yeah, we're, we're, so a little trio, and we just talk about our trips, riding bikes, going to France, doing this and that, and yeah, we love it.

52 MINS LATER

LizaHOST
56:57
Yeah
CharlieGUEST
56:57
... information, and Jim going off to the desert, and all this stuff, and actually it was really good.
AlHOST
49:54
Mm-hmm.
CharlieGUEST
49:54
Or does he wish that he had spent more time or in the editing room or that sort of thing? If Jared is happy with his effort, then, you know, have at it, you know? Uh, you g- you gotta throw your art at the wall, and if it doesn't land, it doesn't land.
AlHOST
50:09
Right.
CharlieGUEST
50:09
But if you're happy with it as an artist, that's fine.
CharlieGUEST
50:13
If he regrets, you know, uh, maybe some contrast in the writer's room or some ideas or in the editing room, uh, or with the direction, then you gotta say, "Okay, well then, you know, where does, where does, uh, your passion lie if it's, if it's not for Shoresy season five?"
CainHOST
15:25
Did it?
CharlieGUEST
15:25
When we saw it the first time, I thought it was amateurish, and I thought, "Oh, there's, you know, there's some stuff going on here." But to actually get as much attention as it did was a shock to me, and I think it's all because of the tie-in, the novelty of having it, you know, built around the universe of Winnie-the-Pooh, and I...
CharlieGUEST
15:51
[sighs] 'Cause I didn't think the movie was that great, but I didn't even think it was good.

1 HR 35 MINS LATER

speaker_36SOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
110:31
Sat by my own desk.
CharlieGUEST
110:37
What a movie, guys.
CharlieGUEST
110:40
What a movie that was.
CharlieGUEST
110:43
That movie was immensely better, I think, than the original.
CharlieGUEST
110:48
It was.
AllieGUEST
0:05
Where you can be brave.
CharlieGUEST
0:16
Welcome to Club Bubble.
CharlieGUEST
0:18
All right, we're gonna play Club Bubble right now.
CharlieGUEST
0:22
But first, before we play Club Bubble, you gotta tell us what we did today.
speaker_2HOST
0:43
[laughs]
CharlieGUEST
0:43
And, but soon it's gonna be Father's Day too.
RomainHOST
31:45
Tel les Jeux olympiques ?
CharlieGUEST
31:46
Ouais.
CharlieGUEST
31:47
Non, mais c'est après euh.
CharlieGUEST
31:50
Après, je trouve que avant, les gens, enfin pas pour faire le boomer, tu vois, quand on parle de tout ça, les gens, je pense qu'avant, ils sacralisaient pas autant le, l'amour.
CharlieGUEST
32:01
Nous, on a tendance un peu à le sacraliser, à le voir par le biais du, ben tu vois, du cinéma, des, des choses.
CharlieGUEST
32:07
Même s'il a toujours été, il existe l'amour, bien sûr, mais peut-être qu'on le, il s'oublie dans le quotidien.
CharlieGUEST
32:12
C'est dans un film, dans...

34 MINS LATER

RomainHOST
66:13
Ok.
EricaGUEST
5:35
Who the hell is Stephanie? I guess not.
CharlieGUEST
5:38
Oh, oh, Erica, Stephanie, Stephanie works in my office.
CharlieGUEST
5:42
We, uh...
CharlieGUEST
5:43
It's 'cause we, we go golfing all the time.
CharlieGUEST
5:45
I mean, it's not like you like golfing.
EricaGUEST
5:51
Wha- what is going on?
CharlieGUEST
5:55
We took a...
CharlieGUEST
5:56
La- I wa- try- as I was trying to say, last month we took a client golfing, and-Erica's really good at the golfing part, and I'm really good at the deal-making part.
16:02
And if so, uh, tell us about that as well i- in this part.
CharlieGUEST
16:08
What I know about...
CharlieGUEST
16:09
Um, so in the beginning, because I knew her story because it was out there on TikTok, um, I, I understood or had some understanding about where she came from.
CharlieGUEST
16:23
I understood that she was a victim like you say.
CharlieGUEST
16:25
She...
CharlieGUEST
16:26
I do believe that she was.
CharlieGUEST
16:29
Uh, I believe that, um, knowing her like I do now, I, I don't believe all of the things that she has said has happened, but I do believe that enough of the things that she said happened to make her, you know, a victim.

16 MINS LATER

33:02
So how does this relationship end?
26:49
[laughs]
CharlieGUEST
26:50
Um, just about that we can be here and out of school too, so that's a bonus.
27:30
Oh, well, either one.
CharlieGUEST
27:33
Okay.
CharlieGUEST
27:33
Um, so all time, it's Turo Polamalu.
JayHOST
14:22
Makes sense
CharlieGUEST
14:22
...
CharlieGUEST
14:22
since we've done, we've done one day of trading, so we did a pop-up.
CharlieGUEST
14:26
Uh, end of Jan, we did it, um, at Tottenham Court Road.
CharlieGUEST
14:30
It was like this massive pop-up space, massive LED screens.
CharlieGUEST
14:33
Like, we really wanted to...
CharlieGUEST
14:34
Because again, there's no coffee shop in the world that's really been produced like this, just selling flat whites.

6 MINS LATER

JayHOST
20:37
... and just, it was muscle memory
TomGUEST
53:01
Hi, Charlie.
CharlieGUEST
53:03
When I got this assignment from Gail and accepted it, they said I was gonna speak on the action phase of the program while the old Charlie was still looking for step thirteen.
TomGUEST
53:18
[laughing]
CharlieGUEST
53:21
But the book said, and I've learned through this program, that I have to read the book, each word.
CharlieGUEST
53:31
And it said, "Having had a spiritual awakening." That meant for me one thing.
CharlieGUEST
53:39
I had to learn a new four-letter word: help.
CharlieGUEST
53:47
I had to recognize that I was really powerless over persons, places, things, and situations, and included in those things was alcohol.
CharlieGUEST
53:58
I had to overcome the fact that I was dropped off on the Lower East Side in 1942 during the race riots to a grandmother that drank, dropped by a mother who drank, who was divorcing a father that drank, and I had to recognize these things, and I carried those things for forty-four years.
Frank LangfittCORRESPONDENT
6:01
Phillips says people coming for training have the exact same fears that we just heard from Charles.
CharlieGUEST
6:05
Charles.The concern is about the supporters of the right wing who feel that they have been given permission to run roughshod at least, if not commit outright violence against people they don't like.
Frank LangfittCORRESPONDENT
11:07
The day after the election, a man drove onto her college campus and yelled racial slurs at Black students.
CharlieGUEST
11:13
Some people, they hate us so much that they really try to make it known how much we're not wanted here.
CharlieGUEST
11:21
Black people, women, and also I feel like who's targeted now is just liberals because of Trump's second term.
1:34
[gentle music]
CharlieGUEST
1:36
We'd been crammed into Buzz's single cab for an hour.
CharlieGUEST
1:39
The sun was up, but the sky was so dark you couldn't tell, and I hadn't looked up from the screen anyway.
CharlieGUEST
1:44
The keys were coming fast now that I was actually playing the game, but there'd been no sign of a login or any clue from Fairchild.
CharlieGUEST
1:51
Everything in the game seemed to be part of the game.
CharlieGUEST
1:55
I'd used the first key to open the door to the next level from the elevator.
CharlieGUEST
1:59
When I stepped out, it was completely different.
ZoeGUEST
4:24
[thunder rumbling]
189:22
Yeah.
CharlieGUEST
189:22
... and fight off, uh, pests and things, things like that, that, that, uh, actually impact the bottom line.
CharlieGUEST
189:29
Yeah, you know, the big thing is, you know, not only is it freeing up labor from, you know, having to go out and do this counting and sampling work, but the, perhaps the, the, the more important thing that's actually being, you know, done and the immediate ROI a lot of our farmers can see is actually a reduction in labor costs and crop inputs.
CharlieGUEST
189:42
Because right now what, you know, this is a bit of a simplification, but what happens across a lot of these farms is that, you know, a farmer who's managing millions of trees and thousands of acres might go out and say, "Hey, you know, this is like one, you know, 50 acre plot of land, I'm going to do the exact same thing to every one of the 50,000 trees in this 50 acre plot of land." When in reality half the trees might only need half the amount of-
190:03
Mm-hmm.
CharlieGUEST
190:03
... you know, pesticides or pruning, or, you know, fertilizers, or whatever it is they might be applying or doing to those trees.
CharlieGUEST
190:09
So, it's very one size fits all.
CharlieGUEST
190:11
And, you know, we can tell these farmers things like, "Hey, wait a minute.
51:51
Here's Reese's daughter, Charlie.
CharlieGUEST
51:54
Obviously, I'd like them to find who did it and finally have that closure.
CharlieGUEST
51:59
It's nice that we found her, her remains, and we know that she's not coming back now.
CharlieGUEST
52:04
And, but different piece of you is always missing when you don't know who did this, why they did it, where they are, who they are, that kind of thing.
CharlieGUEST
52:13
So it'd be really nice to have that type of closure, for sure.
9:50
So here's Charlie.
CharlieGUEST
9:52
I do remember that day, and it's always kinda just replays in my head.
CharlieGUEST
9:56
She told me I had to go to my aunt's house, that she was gonna watch me, and so we rode our bikes down.
CharlieGUEST
10:01
She didn't live far from us.
CharlieGUEST
10:03
And then we got there, and I was like, "Well, I don't wanna stay here.
CharlieGUEST
10:06
I wanna go with you," 'cause I would go with her sometimes.
CharlieGUEST
10:08
So I was like, "I don't wanna go.

14 MINS LATER

24:39
They had found Reese's body, and Charlie still remembers what that conversation was like with her aunt and uncle when they told her.

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