Charleston Symphony Orchestra

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I mean, so all of these things kind of lined up to say, "No, this wonderful Virgo path that you wanted to have, sorry, you're gonna action hero this instead [laughs] and do something completely different." So I left there, moved back to Charleston, and did a lot of freelancing with Charleston Symphony and did the audition circuit, and eventually ended up moving to Michigan 'cause I was dating someone, um, that was up here, and Charleston Symphony took such a massive pay cut that they weren't even hiring assistants anymore.

It was, it was a pretty, p- pretty rough going.

And I got a ton of different orchestra jobs, like regional jobs up in Michigan, and started teaching at Alma College.

And so I did a couple large pieces that are hanging in my wall here.

When we had our house open for a fundraiser for the Charleston Symphony, we had a number of local artists through and I've had offers to have a show, to do more pieces and have a show locally.

I'm self-taught, so I never went to art school.

So I've...