Charles Manson

He's actually the one who coined Sarah's nickname in the media.

Off the cuff, he calls her the female Charles Manson, as in the cult leader who manipulated his followers into murdering at least nine victims.

And the name sticks.

Even today, people still call Sarah the female Charles Manson.

Well, to back up his case, Larry has the receipt for the gun in Sarah's name, the confession letter, which has been confirmed by handwriting experts, and the informant, Floyd Pennington, as a key witness.

And just like that, Sarah Jo Pender is convicted on two murder counts, and she's sentenced to 110 years.

But Sarah gets away.

Her escape turns into a months-long manhunt.

You want to talk about showing up every day and having fun, Jim? It was easy to go to work.

I mean, Glavin didn't go with Charles Manson 48, did he?

No, no.

No, Glav was too respectable to do that.

You want to talk about showing up every day and having fun, Jim? It was easy to go to work.

I mean, Glavin didn't go with Charles Manson 48, did he?

No, no.

No, Glavin was too respectable to do that.

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Everyone seems to know the story of Charles Manson, Sharon Tate, the LaBianca murders.

There were seven people who died in a course of two nights.

What people don't really know is how much Charles Manson wanted to be a musician.

And he was really eager to meet as many people.

He met producers, he met songwriters, he met musicians, including the Beach Boys.

He leaves.

He goes to the studio.

yeah

uh we could talk about yeah i mean like the laurel canyon aspect to this like i mentioned earlier like that's kind of part of the age of aquarius lsd movement hippie movement charles manson kind of this new kind of world that we kind of walked into uh that started then You can tell with obviously the Star Wars story.

We don't even have to go further into it.

This whole Star Wars story, people don't understand.

And Switzerland, again, we have Switzerland always seems to be involved.

As neutral as they are, they seem to always be involved.

so listen to this another tie with these i don't know how much it ties but it's going to be whatever we'll pull it up roman polanski hired levee to stage manage the scenes featuring a satanic leader of the cult of new york that rapes a girl who is assigned to host the antichrist when polanski's pregnant wife sharon tate uh had her situation happen with the charles manson people it was discovered that susan atkins The woman who carried out the stabbings of Tate had been employed by LaVey as a topless vampire in the witch's Sabbath ceremony.

So again, we have this connection with the satanic movement causing murders from the hippie movement to generate this kind of new attitude and mindset in the future.

And it's not unfair to say that Loose Units and Electric Blue and this podcast are full of stories about you encountering people in positions of power, in the institution of primarily the police force, who have basically just done something terrible and then we've sort of wondered, was it the job? Or was it them? And so you wanted to talk about this guy called Jeffrey Robert McDonald.

I'd never heard of him before, but you mentioned the Manson killings, the Charles Manson murders.

How would you pitch Charles Manson and the cult that he ran and what they did in a sort of brief, condensed form to people who, for some reason, don't know who he is?

Well...

Look, you know, he was Manson, even though we're not really talking about Manson today.

But he, Paul, you may not know this, but he was friends with the Beach Boys.

I think one of the Beach Boys was in the cult.

Dennis Wilson, yeah.

I'm calling this episode RFK to Mineo to Manson.

And we're just going to jump right in and connect the three of those people, RFK, of course, Sal Mineo, and Charles Manson.

And if you're not familiar with those folks, I'll bring you up to speed on most of them.

So that being said, without further ado, let's jump on in.

We're talking about RFK and I've already gotten to Manson.

So that's what this episode is going to be like.

So now it's time to discuss and connect the late legendary actor Sal Mineo and the late racist psychopath Charles Manson.

It's a little unorthodox, I know, but there are a ton of weird, interesting facts about these two that I need to share with you.

And she takes her mother out of Barstow for a weekend.

And then on that drive, as I mentioned, her mother's stories start to come out and they're Just such a wild mix of stories that include, you know, home invasions, a Manson cult connection, believe it or not, and the meth lab her father built in the garage.

And that's just to name a few.

And what is Jesse's doing on the drive is what memoir does at its best.

She ran from the DEA in a stolen fur coat.

You've got to love that image.

She spent time in prison with Susan Atkins of the Charles Manson cult, and You know, and then she was this woman who was also crushing aluminum cans along the interstate to recycle.

And she was doing that at like three in the morning.

But when I met her, she was storming around the office.

She was really angry because she had been on Charles Manson's hit list because she was working with the BLM.

He considered himself a conservationist and thought that she shouldn't be working with the federal government.

Well, she was