Charles Krug Winery

And then, of course, he met with Robert Mondavi early on.

And Robert at that time was still running Charles Krug Winery and hadn't broken away from the family and built his own winery.

And so the Kind of the humorous part of that was that because he'd met these people, he was kind of following the footsteps of Robert Mondavi, who was in the process of breaking away from his family and then building his own winery.

So Robert Mondavi was the 31st, and we were the 32nd winery total in the Napa Valley.