Charles E. Curran

if, uh, people are old enough who, to remember Humanae Vitae, when that came out in '68, um, a lot, a lot of theologians...

Well, actually, Father Charles Curran, he's still alive, um, as of this filming as far as I know.

He, um, he actually got a, a, a, a, a, a what do you call? Embargoed copy of Humanae Vitae- And he called a press conference at Catholic U in 1968, the day that it was released, 'cause he had, he had already read it.

Whoa.

It stirred up great controversy in the American church.

Charles Curran, moral theologian at Catholic University of America, famously organized dissent, was kind of a leader of dissent.

And it's fair to say that, at least in the developed world, the reception of—reception meaning the conformity of Catholics to the teaching of Humanae Vitae—has been spotty at best.

Is that fair too as well? I mean, given your studies of what's going on in the United States among Catholics and things like that.