Charisma Carpenter

Not ne- not necessarily shortsighted.

They couldn't have known what was, what they were gonna do to Charisma Carpenter and that they were gonna bring Spike in, and also that Spike was gonna have a soul and all this stuff when they introduced the Shanshu in the first place.

However, knowing that it was introduced, it's like I kind of wish they had just dropped it.

That we had-

His ex-wife, Kai Cole, actually documents multiple instances of him having affairs in 2017.

Charisma Carpenter said that she was body shamed while she was pregnant on set.

Ray Fisher accused him of abusive conduct on Justice League.

And one of the Firefly writers said that he bragged about reducing female writers to tears.

The thing that really kicked it over the line for me in a major way, I was already like, you know, he seems fine, was I saw TikTok the other day.

of Charisma Carpenter who plays Cordelia Chase at a convention somewhere like signing autographs and it was her birthday and David Boreanaz showed up to surprise her with a birthday cake and had everyone sing to her I

did see that

and like you know angel went off the air in like 2004 for 22 years and obviously like sarah michelle geller still talks so highly of him and then for him to like be doing that for charisma 22 years later i just think that's like stand-up guy behavior i think he probably is like a nice guy to work with so i want to say here and now i think he seems like a cool guy based on limited information i know about him also this story about the interview is so funny to me it's like i would understand because i also if the radio station called me i would assume that oh when i answered they were gonna give me like a little here's what's gonna happen and then we'd go live yeah but also i don't know if they were saying like how's bones going um It's still a professional environment.

party? There was an Oscar thing, but it was something else.

Like, Charisma was there, et cetera.

It was a moving party.

It was

A couple months after this, it's 2021.

Charisma Carpenter from Buffy has something to say.

I will not say all of it here, but part of it is Joss Whedon abused his power on numerous occasions while working on the sets of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel.

Well, he said, Some of those.

And that might not even be an episode that was your idea, an episode that you morally agree with or whatever it is.

You might have like... real objections to it and you're just not going to say anything because you want to keep your job

so i'm going to close out real quick with the uh response from weed and the unsatisfying response he's uh this is stuff he said i was young i yelled and sometimes you had to yell that was a very young cast and it was easy for everything to turn into a cocktail party but he denies several claims by different crew and cast members way too many to get into here in this episode he does say he was quote not uh mannerly in quote at times with charisma carpenter Oh, that's what it was.

He wasn't manly.

Yeah.

And I think, um, now that I've re-watched it, and we've obviously know about Charisma's allegations-

Yeah

... and we know about what this, the, the rest of the cast has said in support of her, um, and you know, or in support of Joss Whedon, who knows, I can now say, like, with having viewed it again and re-watched it, that it does feel that way.

I don't like Cordelia this season at all.

Mm-hmm.

I don't think even, like, Charisma's heart was in it.

She wasn't giving her best performances either.