Changa

You know what I mean? Just preserve the toads.

And so the second, now I've switched that out for changa.

So the Changa DMT experiences have been my most powerful so far.

And so I had to take them through these and explain what I learned and how I learned it.

And, and then the end, you know, we close it up with like, you know, hopefully like an inspirational close, but I had to convert my comedy to, Into a show because I realized right away that I can't stand in front of a comedy audience and talk about this.

much pleasure, this meat bag.

You know what I mean? So I don't know why that was my reaction because our bodies are amazing.

Um, and then with Changa, yeah i'm not i could not i mean so if i open my eyes during the changa experience i would come back right but as long as my eyes were closed and i guess there had to have been some awareness to know not to open my eyes but i was not here i was in a whole different space dimension whatever whatever you want to call it and those are the only times ayahuasca deep into it, again, closing my eyes.

Well, welcome back everybody.

I'm sitting here with Julian Palmer, most famously known for inventing Changa, and now he is, uh, on a tea wave.

That's your next, uh, entheogenic exploration, the ancient tree.

Well, it's just, it's just a, uh, it's a, it's, it's a learning, right? And so I know about plants, and when I, when I was, uh, traveling in China for a few weeks, I realized that tea culture, Chinese tea culture was very much underestimated by the West.

Right.

You know? So it's like that's quite special to have that connection.

Actually, can we talk about some of your favorite, um, brews? Because, um, you know, so you, you-- a- as, as much as people like to believe it's some ancient Brazilian thing, uh, Changa in its, in its current form was, was, was created by you, which is essentially it's, it's freebase DMT evaporated onto the dried ayahuasca vine with a few other herbs, right?

Well, you know, the best way to do it is to put in ethanol and then add the herbs, you know?

Thanks for having me back.

So I've heard you talk on your channel about a DMT experience, um, namely with Changa, and I want to hear more about that.

Can you tell me, first of all, what Changa is, how DMT fits into that, and then we'll just go into your experience with it.

Yeah.

Well, I'll give a shout-out to your countrymen.

Uh, Changa is actually, uh, um...

Now I'm assuming you're Australian, that's correct, right?

Yeah, I'm Australian.