Cetus Corporation

But it wasn't really too much of an emphasis for later parts of his career.

And so it's when it gets in the hands of the Cetus Corporation, where you have scientists who are already working on this polymerase chain reaction, this idea that if you have an enzyme that can catalyze the replication of DNA, you can amplify small samples of DNA, which you might get from like a hair.

You can amplify them and actually detect stuff.

And the problem they were having was they were using E. coli, and E. coli doesn't like the heat.

Uh, I wound up actually in the, uh, company where PCR was invented.

I see both of you, you have some, some recognition, so if anybody listens, if anybody watches crime shows or true crime shows, you'll hear somebody inevitably say, "We're gonna take it back to the lab and run the PCR on it." So yeah, I wound up at, uh, Cetus Corporation, where Kary Mullis had come up with the idea for a polymerase chain reaction, and then a bunch of folks had to figure out, "Well, how do we get that to work routinely at the bench? And then how do we get that to work with all of these different types of tests we wanna run?"

So what you're saying is you were definitely from an academic background of a qui-

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