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If you're willing to go for a PSA slab, especially for modern and some bronze and copper comics.

What do you think the reason for this is? Not to say I don't like the CGC slab, but with the current climate of CGC and all their past faults, I feel that PSA is starting to give them a run for their money.

Looking past the blah label, the comics do present fairly well.

Would love to know what you think.

They're ugly.

They're huge.

They don't fit in your CGC box.

What other reasons?

It's not hard to crack cards.

One out of a thousand you might ding, but they crack those out and then they gradually release them to CGC, which does huge business in TCGs and is not affiliated.

Now I'm hoping that PSA collectors will work with CGC, but again, criminals not being stupid, the Mookie bets one of one they need to just sit on that maybe forever because that would be a telltale sign and even the very rare charizard they need to sit on those but the run-of-the-mill thousand dollar fungible cards just commodity cards if they run them through cgc after they crack them and send them in waves don't send hey i've got a submission of 6 300 raw cards here that i just found Again, criminals are not stupid.

This is a premeditated planned attack and they have to have their end game in mind.

And that end game, I think, means 10% of these cards can never see the light of day because it would be incriminating to them.

Tags did break really easy.

When I was cracking, I cracked CGC, PSA, and tag.

I didn't film anything.

I was just doing it in my living room because I don't have enough.

I just kind of like, well, it's really because you're strong.

Like,

no, cause PSA, I sat there, I like fought with, and then CGC, I really fall with.

It's good to know.

Hey everybody, welcome to another edition of Nonsense on Ice, where we talk hockey and we talk the hobby.

Doug Pleggins here with you as always in Nonsense on Ice, as always, presented by our friends at Upper Deck and our friends at CGC.

Doug Pleggins with you, Brendan Darr on the other side, our great producer.

We'll be hearing from him throughout the hour because we have a lot to talk about.

What does it all mean? We'll find out.

Gavin McKenna, some thoughts there.

The CGC Hobby 3 Stars Upper Deck Series 1, some more notes as we continue ripping that.

We've got the Upper Deck Release Calendar, some releases on the way.

having a very narrow window of being released and then next thing you know because i mean cosmic eclipse came out in the fall of 2019 and then 2020 started we all know how that went later in the year but earlier that year sword and shield came out with the game and then sword and shell base set dropped you know in the march time frame and then everything was all about sword and shield cards and cosmic eclipse and the sun and moon era kind of got pushed off into the back burners so that's that's a lot of uh info for um those collecting or investing but that's where i'd look uh obviously do your own research don't take my word for truth and have fun while doing it but also you follow my strategies hopefully you can expand your collection to where you want it to be Question number two from Lisa.

What do you think of the current grading market, specifically with all the controversy and lawsuits surrounding PSA? Do you think people should still grade with them? Also, what do you think about other grading companies in regards to Pokemon like CGC? Why does PSA go for a premium despite all the issues people have with them? Fantastic question.

Perfect timing, too, because literally just yesterday, a fellow sports collector and grader in the space had their PSA submission of over $100,000 plus dollars amount worth of cards stolen from a FedEx truck.

It's like every other month there's some PSA scandal going on.

And until people realize that there's other grading companies that will sell for more than PSA, you're not going to have that sentiment shift.

So as long as PSA is still outperforming on the secondary market, people are still going to go with PSA.

And I think also because they have a more loose, well, seemingly loose grading process around what qualifies as a nine or 10 versus CGC and Beckett, you have, you know, CGC 10s and then pristine 10s and then Beckett 10s and black label 10s.

QSA doesn't have a better thing than a 10, so that 10 encompasses perfect pristine 10s that meet all of the criteria in terms of a Beckett Black Label and pristine CGC 10, as well as cards that are just above a 9, but they're not quite a 9, so we're going to give them a 10 anyways.

So a PSA certification on your PSA cards, see if I have one.

I don't have PSA, I have CGC.

Oh, here it is.

Your certs, they're right there.