Celebrity Skin

Agree with that.

Uh, so Hole themselves are not back until 1998, and that's with the third album, Celebrity Skin.

Courtney Love's actually been talking about that album since '95.

She's got a title for it already.

She's even got, like, the little hook for it.

She's like, "Oh, 'cause I've touched so much of it.

Celebrity Skin." Some of the songs are already out.

"Sugar Coma," she plays on the Unplugged.

I like Courtney Love.

But this is a ballad with a fiddle, so this is not Celebrity Skin.

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Well, you're the guy who put planted those seeds, so-

Yeah

... thinks, "Well, I guess I'll call Melissa." On the outside, just to be clear, in 1999 at this point, Hole have released Celebrity Skin, which-

Yeah

... took years for us to make.

Umami.

Before that, we had Hole with Celebrity Skin.

Gillies liked that one.

Shout out, Gillies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Celebrity Skin and all that good stuff.

Okay, I see what you're saying.

I saw them headline Edge Fest 99 at the peak of Courtney's kind of insaneness.

that'll be a good album.

Celebrity Skin was a great album.

Now, she had some other stuff going on and is a tortured person and may or may not have killed Kurt Cobain, but hey, she was talented.

Well, it's the golden era of the backup quarterback.

So maybe that'll be a good album.

Celebrity Skin was a great album.

Now she had some other stuff going on and is a tortured person and may or may not have killed Kurt Cobain, but hey, she was talented.

Well, it's the golden era of the backup quarterback.

It is the horrible, manipulative assholes that want to control them.

And in fact, on the last album, Celebrity Skin, that we made whole, there's a song called Awful.

And it's about the consumption and the consuming, the corporations taking advantage of the devoted young girls that love music.

And Courtney was warning, like, they're going to come after you because the value... that these corporate creeps, you know, there's such high value.