Cathy Come Home

... uh, Cath- Cathy Comes Home.

Yeah, Cathy Come Home, yeah.

Yeah.

Um, the, the, that great movie, uh, that great Play for Today by Ken Loach.

... or to, or to highlight them, which, which I think is a very good thing to do.

I think, I think there's something in the DNA of British television that goes all the way back to Cathy Come Home, which was, sort of led to shelter and all sorts of things like that.

Yes.

A, uh, a Play for Today about homelessness, and, and TV has oft just endlessly tried to replicate that.

I think if you watch a program like Race Across the World, um, and-

Yeah

... what is Race Across the World? I, I, listen, I get it's not Cathy Come Home, right? But what it is is a big entertainment show, big entertainment proposition, fun rules, incredible scenery.

But by episode three, episode four, they're making you cry three or four times-

Yeah, in that sense that, you know, they followed the rules, that there was an understanding that, that business is operated with certain codes, and then when the businesses that they're buying their stock from go under and have been dishonest with them, that's when it all starts to fall apart.

In its own way, I mean, yes, you're right, it's not, it's not taking a political stance, but it's kind of got its own quiet devastation, just like Ken Loach's Cathy Come Home, hasn't it, when the family are evicted.

I think the scope, this is the second series of Present Imperfect.

I mean, I d- I didn't, I didn't even remember the name of the documentary strand.

Yes.

I mean, when you think about something like Cathy Come Home, which was, you know, about homelessness, uh, in 19, I have to look it up, 1966, um, you know, it, it, there is a feeling now that would the government let them away with, with that?

Mm-hmm.

Would the government put their foot down and say, "No, you can't represent the-