Catherine Maurice

And it became, I don't know, two, four, you know, just like every year I was opening like three or four more sites and it started to really, really grow.

I think the big moment for Card was when in, so this again goes back to, you know, the Catherine Maurice, who had written the book, Let Me Hear Your Voice.

She had recommended me to another parent who was a very wealthy banker family in Chicago.

And they had brought their child for me to see.

Right.

And what I mentioned earlier, I wasn't.

In a lot of really interesting situations, you know, the Lovaas thing, of course, the Catherine Maurice book, etc.

But here's another one, like a parent called at some point and said, I really want you guys in Arizona, like, okay, we need this much funding or to be able to come and open and she to this day is an incredible incredible mom lobbyist went to arizona and raised funds she raised tobacco tax money she's a lobbyist for us to go to arizona to open a clinic that does a research project to show it can be replicated right what the lowest study so we did that We went to Arizona, we saw 16 children, almost half of them lost the diagnosis.