Catherine Knibbs

Yeah, I love that.

And, uh, Candice said this, uh, Dr. Lucy Foulkes said this when I interviewed her, Catherine Knibbs said this, that actually, if things are not going well offline, it's amplified online.

They'll be going online to try and find answers, to deaden the pain or the discomfort.

So one of the things we can do is we can go, "Okay," like you said, "let's wonder why are they doing this?" So what do you think about this debate between controlling and monitoring versus understanding?

So let's go into some questions that we could share with parents that might scaffold this process.

Um, and you've, you've come up with some lovely examples.

One of them is, "What's attracting you to this?" Um, and Catherine Knibbs says it's really important to actually, if your child's playing a game or wants to play a game, sit down and play it with them.

I mean, just shoot me, because some of these things are just so tedious.