So you gotta be careful about where you talk about them and share their experiences because, you know, word can get around.

YeahAnd I, I think that when you, even right down to when we- Yeah ... go away on tour and we go for work, it's other moms in our community who are picking up and driving our children for carpool to and from school.

And our moms who help out and our, obviously our husbands also do a lot, but with seven kids, they can't all go, they all go to different schools, as you do.

You know, 'cause each kid needs- We have to our own identity, you know what I mean? Anyways.

[laughs] Um, you know, we're trying to, like, service them.

Well, don't know what we're thinking over here.

But, um, we, we definitely, it's really, I, I think women- [laughs] ... get such an under, um, appreci- like, I think we're all really there for each other.

... and to be gentle with yourself in that journey