Mm-hmm.

And what is the power, the transformational power of critical urban pedagogy.

[laughs] That goes beyond engagement, that goes beyond participation, but most importantly is shaping what is the public discussion.

At this very moment in the conference, I will be kind of talking about, on the one hand, convening couple of panels on what does it mean, reparative urban futures.

So ... [laughs]

[laughs] So yeah.

It's not only Colombian, but also all the Latin American diaspora in the UK that is interested in urban questions.

I would be very keen to hear from you, because I'm convinced that the diaspora has a lot kind of to learn and to kind of ...