Carroll Hall Shelby

So being able to talk to him on the phone was awesome because, like, I remember the first time I called him, I was so nervous to be able to talk to him.

I mean, because he's one of the guys that tuned – that helped Carol Shelby tune the Daytonas.

I mean, the original ones.

I mean, this guy is like this big in the, you know, the Weber side and being able to talk to him on the phone and go through the book and go through my ideas.

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shit this is bad with the older with the old with the old school guys which is because if you say to them and I've done it before you know because I've talked to a hundred of these guys interviewing them on my car show and stuff like that and I go what was it like working with Carroll Shelby and they'll go He was an interesting guy.

And you go, well, what was it like working with him? You know, Carol's Carol.

He's going to do what's best for Carol.

She should be

nice.

I'm just saying, Carroll Shelby is a hard-driving business guy.

He's a guy who drove...

Ford is really good at recognizing talent and partnering with the right people.

We got Carroll Shelby.

We got Bill Stroke.

We got Jack Roush.

Yeah, I haven't really seen many other athletes.

It's big with like, you know, like Carroll Shelby or like the Ford family or different like automotive makers or pioneers of the industry.

Like they'll, same thing, get them to sign a dashboard or... different like from the Fast and Furious series they'll like the different actors I've seen they'll sign the dashboard or like the spoiler wing on the back or something like that also NASCAR drivers you'll see people bring it like the whole race use door front bumper or something that's a tire yeah that's pretty like big among the NASCAR collector community to do

And that makes sense because, obviously, the vehicle is very, very important in NASCAR.

that? That was – so that one's actually built – Superformance is the one that did the overall.

That one's registered historically with Shelby.

Shelby gave that one the sign-off as an actual chassis number with the GT40.

That is a legitimate.

Oh, they'll do CSX numbers on the

And these older ones, the Superformance ones, are fucking cool, man.

They just did such a good job.

And then it was registered in like the history of like the historical book and all that with Shelby team.

And when I moved out to California to do Mustang and Ford's magazine, we got together.

I told him I was going out to Pomona to shoot Carol Shelby with a couple of Shelbys.

That would be the first time I ever met Shelby.

But anyway, Ron said something like I'm coming to LA.

Do you know that enzo ferrari being the kind of person he was caused more people to get angry and go build their own cars he probably did as much for the automotive world by being i'll say this as nicely as i can disagreeable as he ever did building his own cars.

Carroll Shelby got mad at Ferrari and went and made the Cobra.

Ferruccio Lamborghini got mad at Ferrari and went and started Lamborghini.

You would think after a while, maybe it just learned to be nice.