Carpenter v. United States

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There's a slight language barrier to consider in either case.

In both cases, right? Because I'm hearing whistling on one side and on the other kind of thing.

That sounded more like a dolphin crossed with the duckling.

But regardless, I'm hearing one thing on one side and one thing on the other.

So I've used my entire history of vendor management oversight company that I want to launch to go through all of these stages.

And I have to tell you, this is one of the most complex ones is exactly what information should and could you get from your vendors to know how to exercise appropriate oversight.

I'd say in most cases, you have to do what the financial industries over in Europe and the UK are doing is identify material vendors.

Yeah, so let me just first talk the constitutional question and then talk the policy question.

So what makes the constitutional question really interesting is that this was actually a focus of the oral argument in the Chantry case last year.

Assume there's a search, what makes for a constitutional warrant to search to query this database? And it turns out there's a split in the circuits between the Fourth Circuit and the Fifth Circuit.

Tell us a little bit, actually, just for the benefit of some of our non-learned

Got it.

And when there is a split between the circuits, that's a sign... to the Supreme Court that maybe eventually they need to consider that issue, even though they sometimes do let these things sit for years and decades.

Yeah, and so it wouldn't shock me if there's going to be a Chantry 2 after the case goes down, it might go back up, and then the Supreme Court will resolve the warrant issues.

But on the policy question, this is a really, really interesting question that we don't quite know the answer to, which is how would a warrant rule work? If the rule is that flock camera queries require a warrant, first of all, how broadly do we construe that? So is that like any query of any kind of any public camera? Is that only at scale? Is that only if it's more than one camera? So there was a case, for example, called Commonwealth v.