Carolyn Custis James

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Carolyn Custis James.

So she's a well-known Christian author who's written very scholarly things.

And she wrote a book called When Life and Beliefs Collide.

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So Carolyn Custis James, she again, she did really deep research on this.

And she found that the other places where the word Azar is used, and y'all know this already, but is for God.