So, like, what were the things that inspired you, Carol, to think, oh, look, let's give this a crack?

I probably dipped my toes more into the compost at the beginning.

I've had a garden here since 2007 and I've always been interested in permaculture and composting and healthy growing of our food.

And I just sent Brian podcasts that I thought were interesting and I was like, we should do more of this on the farm because I don't like the, you know, the conventional... herbicide sprays and all that sort of thing.

And it's very difficult to get away from them.

We haven't.

But we're trying to improve our soil and our crops using more natural ingredients.

How are you multiplying that year by year? Are you carrying it batches forward, or how are you...?