Carl Williams

It's the harshest penalty that any prisoner can face.

She's not even Carl Williams, who was the kingpin of our gangland war in Melbourne, got a non-parole period.

He got a non-parole period.

But I think if you were to ask the general man or woman out on the streets, they'd say she's a triple killer and that's what you get.

... those barristers.

John, uh, you've, um, I think you've said in the past that you are legitimately famous when you're known by one name, and I think at the time you were referring to Carl Williams.

But Sly, is that you? Are you famous by being known by one name?

Yeah.

... what their statements were.

Yeah.

Things really got going in 1999, I think, when, um, [lip smacks] the Morans shot Carl Williams in a park in Gladstone Park.

October 13, 1999.

There you go.

Underworld figure Carl Williams' birthday today, 1970, born.

Thorpey.

Thorpey's birthday as well, and, and Ryan Madison, former NRL-

In Australia, it was environmental issues and indigenous issues.

2007 in Melbourne, Carl Williams is arrested, which brings an end to a long crisis.

crime wave in the city now I was thinking about this last night my mate and I were talking about this the noughties the 2000s they were kind of the naughty noughties like like there was a real kind of cultural you could do what you want and all of a sudden and I don't mean I'm not lumping in left-wing politics with um nanny state stuff necessarily I don't mean that but the following year 2008 Smoking is banned from pubs.

The lockout laws come into effect in Sydney.

But at that time, like I say, there's this shift.

So it's like...

And the reason I identify Carl Williams because he was this ecstasy kingpin in Melbourne.

And Melbourne was actually like flooded with really high quality ecstasy.

Yeah.

And, um, Carl, Carl Williams, Guy Pearce who played Carl Williams-

Mm

... famously called me Sphincter.

amongst barristers.

John, I think you've said in the past that you are legitimately famous when you're known by one name, and I think at the time you were referring to Carl Williams.

But Sly, is that you? Are you famous by being known by one name?

Yeah, I'm called Sly of the Underworld and that was because a legendary copper, Kim West, would refer to me because of the name Sylvester, like Sly Sylvester, Sylvester Stallone.

Yeah.

Things really got going in 1999, I think, when the Morans

shot Carl Williams

in a park in Gladstone Park.

But yeah, he's too much of a sook.

Who's the guy who played Carl Williams on Underbelly? He'd play

you.

Guy M. Grantley.